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Drugs are killing so many people in Ohio that cold-storage trailers are being used as morgues
Washington Post ^ | March 16, 2017

Posted on 03/18/2017 9:26:32 PM PDT by Timpanagos1

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To: Tammy8
I am convinced the sky rocketing drug abuse is their reaction when they find out how things work in the real world

Young adults now are to a great percentage children of parents who were brought up with pills and excuses for everything, and not much accountability. Can't afford college, an expensive car or a McMansion....get a loan. Work to pay for a vacation....that's what credit cards are for. A personality that doesn't meet someone's idea of normal....take a pill and shut up. Got a toothache?....here's a painkiller etc Fantasy vs Reality?.....it's all so blurred.

I don't know how our "civilization" walks it back. Sometimes I feel like I'm in one of those sci-fi movies, where one by one everyone is being turned into a zombie by aliens.

301 posted on 03/19/2017 2:42:34 PM PDT by grania (only a pawn in their game)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Yes, thank you for finding that! It wasn’t the president of Mexico. It was a former official via CNN.


302 posted on 03/19/2017 2:46:02 PM PDT by petitfour (Appeal to Heaven)
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To: SeeSharp

Have an archive all of G-grandfather’s books, State records from well before 1906 Pure Food and Drug Act, which required labeling of products with cocaine, morphine, opium, and cannabis. Fascinating reading.

C. Alder Wright, English chemistry and physics researcher at St. Mary’s Hospital Medical School in London, was the first person to synthesize diamorphine, in the UK in 1874. He was looking for a non-addictive form of morphine. He boiled anhydrous morphine alkaloid with acetic anhydride on a stove and produced a more potent, acetylated form of morphine, now called diamorphine, even more addictive unfortunately.

23 years later in 1897, Felix Hoffman, the inventor of aspirin at Bayer Fabrikin in Elberfeld, Germany- synthesized diamorphine while trying to make codeine from morphine under orders from Heinrich Dreser chief scientist. Bayer in the era of TB epidemic and pneumonia had a wonder drug, and they branded and trademarked it “Heroin” with patents for it’s processing in Europe and US, and marketed it starting in 1898 in 23 countries (also selling the compound whole to multiple small outfits who put it in a lot of other elixirs). In Spanish speaking countries it was marketed for adults and children for cough. US marketing was to adults as alternative to morphine (for “cough”,and more as a hopeful replacement for addictive morphine, there being large numbers of morphine addicts by then). The 1906 Pure Food and Drug act created the beginnings of a future FDA, requring labeling for products with opiates. Foreign product versions, without labeling other than brand, drew the attention of officials to the fact the product was in fact derived from morphine, resulted in 1913 with Bayer withdrawing the product. A federal ban on opiates followed in the Harrison Narcotics Act in 1914, and tightened with complete ban on heroin for any purpose in 1924. Hope that helps.

In re: the concentration camp reference—Bayer had their legacy tarnished during WWII when (having in 1925 been merged into the I.G.Farben German chemical company conglomerate) it was known to have used slave labor during WWII, including managing slave labor/concentration death camps. Farben was also the group that manufactured Zyklon B, the cyanide based pesticide used in the Nazi gas chambers. Bayer was forced to separate from Farben after WWII, and Fritz ter Meer, chairman of Bayer’s supervisory board, was tried and convicted during the Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunal and sentenced to seven years in prison. He was involved in various experiments done at Auschwitz on human subjects, and mass murder.


303 posted on 03/19/2017 2:46:03 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: ilovesarah2012

When meth went like wildfire through rural communities several years ago (its still there but some have cleaned up) it hit every age group. Started with young adults but then moved down in age group to younger kids and up in age group to adults, even a few old enough to surely know better...

Yes when a “new” drug fad hits it may hit inner cities, large cities and young adults first but usually hits all ages and areas before the craze is over and rinse and repeat. I am surprised how many people think drug addiction is only a problem in inner cities or with high school/college age groups. That is so not true.


304 posted on 03/19/2017 2:48:24 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: NobleFree
I had double knee replacements 5 years ago. The only drug available were opioids. Honestly, marijuana would have helped enormously, been much safer, and reduced the need for and dosage of opioids. There is a psychological component to pain and just being able to relax and have less anxiety would have allowed me to tolerate a higher level of pain without resorting to the “big gun” opioids.

Getting off the opioids was the worst week I have ever lived in my life. I decided that it was just easier to simply stop completely than to go through that hellish “weaning”.

305 posted on 03/19/2017 2:54:29 PM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: sargon

If complete free use of any and every opiates is to be legalized, would have no problem in that as long as open or concealed carry firearms/weapons was the law of the land, without licensure or any need for State reciprocity. Then, as in days of old... encounter a drugged out narco— shoot the f’n bastard in clear self defense. A marked reduction in drug addicts would result, and low recidivism.


306 posted on 03/19/2017 2:58:21 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Timpanagos1
In spite of hating Ohio, Emperor malloy is putting together a traveling pony show to look into harvesting those nice young organs, and bring them back to Hartford to recycle. ///s
307 posted on 03/19/2017 2:58:57 PM PDT by Daffynition ("The New PTSD: Post-Trump Stress Disorder" - The MLN didn't make Trump, so they can't break Trump.)
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To: SeeSharp

I was told years ago by a drug counselor that most that died from heroin did so after a real attempt at cleaning up. When they would go back to using they would use the amount they had been using when they stopped and it was too much for them when they restarted. He was of course talking about heroin, not with things added in like what is going on now.

I do think the number of deaths we are seeing now is from additives. And before I get flamed I do think heroin all by itself is horrible, and it has ruined many lives, not only of addicts but those that care about them.


308 posted on 03/19/2017 3:10:04 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: Snowybear

Know all about Fentanyl, clinically. Heroin by itself is... not good. If, somehow a white collar moron gets ahold of a fentanyl patch to suck on and shoots or smokes heroin with it, not good. A question I have to my forensic and enforcement colleagues, how and where from is bulk fentanyl (in powder form, or some “salt” solid) obtained? Theft from veterinarians, or junkie anaethesiologists. The vets have to keep a tight lock on ketamine, we know— as nuts as that is. Bottom line, people are going to find a way to f themselves up, and political types in history have found ways to help them do it— in order to control them (see: Inca chieftains and their coked out slave labor who never needed food, much and could work to death at high altitude). Will tell you there have been trials done in re: human genetic marker regions for “triggers” from opiates, especially those from/and reacting to cannabis (as such cannabis is not benign either, not at current titer levels from hybrid plants). Pioneering work done by English investigators (not some “Reefer Madness” put up job— serious work).


309 posted on 03/19/2017 3:14:49 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Elsie

I would go along with that, trouble is most would not.


310 posted on 03/19/2017 3:44:13 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: wintertime

One of my ex son-in-laws became a full blown meth addict. When he went to rehab the first time his counselor told us nearly all the meth addicts he dealt with had been on ADD drugs. We had no idea, but yes our son-in-law (at the time) was on ADD drugs as a kid. The counselor told us the kids were addicted after years of use and then it was simply taken away from them at some magical age of usually 16-18 with no treatment.

The truly sad thing was he was a wonderful guy, very ambitious, great work ethic- all went down the toilet. I later found out from his step-mother that when his mother died he was 8 years old. After his mother’s death he struggled in school and was diagnosed with ADD...he was likely in mourning not even ADD when they drugged him with ADD drugs. Craziness!!


311 posted on 03/19/2017 3:51:34 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: John S Mosby
If complete free use of any and every opiates is to be legalized, would have no problem in that as long as open or concealed carry firearms/weapons was the law of the land, without licensure or any need for State reciprocity. Then, as in days of old... encounter a drugged out narco— shoot the f’n bastard in clear self defense. A marked reduction in drug addicts would result, and low recidivism.

Absolutely. I'm with you. Then maybe users would be more likely to restrict their foolishness to the privacy of their own homes...

312 posted on 03/19/2017 3:56:37 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: grania

I hear you, I really think a lot of this cannot be fixed at this point. I am an optimist, so I think we fix what we can and move forward. Many will fall through the cracks though and I don’t know what if anything can be done about that.


313 posted on 03/19/2017 3:56:53 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: Timpanagos1

Saved


314 posted on 03/19/2017 4:09:51 PM PDT by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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To: Tammy8
Here's a sobering thought. It was only 70,000 years ago that man almost became extinct. Estimates are that there were only 2,000 people at that point. And that was before man was doing things that messed up DNA.

I agree with you. It can't be fixed. The best we're going to get is pockets of survival, where there are still people who've taken care of their bodies and minds and developed the skills, individual responsibility, and ethics that are necessary for a society to survive.

315 posted on 03/19/2017 4:47:07 PM PDT by grania (only a pawn in their game)
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To: Elsie
People are dying from drugs while they’re illegal - not really a feather in the cap of the War on Drugs. And what kills some drug users is contaminants ... which are a result of their illegality just as sure as tainted ‘bathtub gin’ was a result of alcohol’s one-time illegality.

If we criminalize ABORTION; then women will die by the MILLIONS!!! from coat hangers!!!

If we don't criminalize abortion, women will kill babies by the millions; if we stop criminalizing drugs, a few more fools may kill themselves (and a few more won't because their drugs won't be contaminated).

316 posted on 03/19/2017 4:48:47 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: max americana

“Duterte , the prez of the Philippines has a solution for that: KILL THE DRUG PUSHERS. it’s worked wonders for the country. How come we cant do that here?”

Because the Constitution entitles each accused person to a trial, which is not how Duterte’s doing it.


317 posted on 03/19/2017 4:56:01 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

LOL, thanks for catching that faux pas. I was posting in a hurry.

Note to self: Proofread carefully before posting.


318 posted on 03/19/2017 5:43:36 PM PDT by CrimsonTidegirl (Deplorable and loving it.)
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To: Tammy8

Indeed!


319 posted on 03/19/2017 5:55:55 PM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: Lazamataz

“there’s a assload more heroin out there too.”

Literally smuggled that way.


320 posted on 03/19/2017 5:57:35 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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