Part of your problem is you couldn’t even be bothered to understand the exchange. He said this would go the way of the flying car and there was no money in it. That’s a popular retort but lacks facts. The two big ones being that nobody seriously attempted to develop the flying car while at this point basically everybody is attempting to develop the self driving car, and there’s a ton of money to be made.
This revolution IS happening:
https://www.trucks.com/category/tech/autonomous-vehicles/
No you’re moving the goalposts. You just did it again. Because you refuse to understand incrementalism. Even if a vehicle only autonomously drove part of the journey it STILL DROVE ITSELF. You have forgotten how most people are taught to drive, usually with somebody else driving us to the place where we practiced. By your standards none of us drove until after we got our licenses, including our driving test, which just goes to show how wrong your standard is.
This IS happening. We don’t yet have 100% fully autonomous parking space to parking space. But we DO have vehicles that drive parts, even most, of their own journeys, and the technology just keeps getting bigger. That first link I gave you did prove my point, but you don’t want it, so you moved the posts. But all that proves is that you’re in denial.
As I mentioned before, I am a civil engineer. I often get...frustrated...at work, because everybody dives in and tackles the easiest part of a problem first. And honestly, 90% of the time, money, and effort on a project is spent on the last really hard 5% of the project.
That is where driverless car research is right now - the easy stuff. The really easy stuff - highway driving, just like GM did in 1960. I guarantee you - the last 5% of this problem will prove quite difficult.
So this is where we get to my not being ‘bothered to understand the exchange’. The OP, the premise of this ENTIRE thread is an absolute piece of NONSENSE article that states kids born today will NEVER DRIVE. I understand that very well - now do you?
Now, in light of what I’ve just explained about the hardest part of the design still ahead of the companies pursuing this - does any sane person seriously believe the article in the OP is true? In my state, kids as young as 14 can have a restricted license, but I’ll be conservative and use 16 as a benchmark. Do you REALLY think that 16 years from now, there will only be self driving cars? That is the ‘exchange’ being discussed here - and I understand it quite well.
And please explain how I moved my goalpost, without ever changing my original question? All I have ever asked is for one example of a car that can traverse city streets, driverless. I have never changed that request - and you have never been able to produce even one example (for the obvious reason there is no example).
Now sometimes I can’t help myself, but I’m just not a fan of unsubstantiated claims on the interwebs:
“LIDAR isn’t the answer most of the companies are working on.”
Do you have a source for that statement?
And who are these ‘companies’?
Uber: Giant rotating LIDAR head on roof, plus 4 supplemental units at corners of vehicle
Google: Giant rotating LIDAR head on roof
Otto: LIDAR
So I have to ask exactly who are these companies who are building autonomous vehicles without LIDAR?
Recap:
Static Goalpost question #1: Give an example of a driverless car in use today, to back up your unsubstantiated assertion.
Static Goalpost Question #2: Back up the assertion that ‘companies’ aren’t using LIDAR (even though all the big players are using LIDAR)