"The article says that SOMEDAY in the FORESEEABLE FUTURE and you turned that into current kids, 16 years."
No. It does not. This is precisely what it says:
"New research suggests that children born today will never drive a car."
“My own prediction is that kids born today will never get to drive a car,”
Can you understand that? The article is absolutely stating that kids born today (who would normally drive 16 years from now) will not drive. Its very clear.
"Then of course there’s you demanding the cars be autonomous, since the cars will be taking orders from owners (not really a market for cars that just do what they want) they’ll never technically be autonomous. That’s moved goal posts."
Again, from the article:
"Autonomous, driverless cars are not 10, 15 years out. All the automotive companies—Daimler, GM, Ford—are saying that within five years they will have autonomous, driverless cars on the road."
As far as I'm concerned, a DRIVERLESS car is pretty darned autonomous. How on earth have I moved the goal posts, when this lunatic is stating that there will be DRIVERLESS cars in FIVE years. So no I am not 'demanding' they be autonomous - the snake oil salesmen pushing this are guaranteeing it.
"Plenty are using cameras, because they know LIDAR has great limitations."
'Plenty' is not very specific. You still haven't named one large player who isn't using LIDAR. I ask again, who isn't using LIDAR? You can't tell me.
Your demand for parking space to parking space is a moved goal post that is outside of what I said.
Can you not comprehend that this article is peddling the notion of DRIVERLESS cars?
"Tesla and Oryx are going no LIDAR"
Psst - not even Tesla claims their cars are self driving in any way. Their owner's manual implores the driver to stay vigilant with his hands on the wheel.
Oryx doesn't make cars.
I've noticed in your posting history, you like to argue with fellow Freepers...in an off putting manner. Normally no more than 3-4 posts between the arguments. In this case, its as if you didn't even read the article posted...as absolutely nothing you have typed has matched the content of the article in any way. I find that fascinating. The goal is not discussion of the article...the goal must be to be argumentative, for its own sake.
As I pointed out there are kids RIGHT NOW not bothering to learn to drive. It is becoming an unnecessary skill with or without self driving cars. And thanks to generations being raised on the internet cars are no longer the great symbol of adult freedom they once were. These kids are raised with the world at their fingertips, driving to the mall just doesn’t excite them.
They will have self driving cars on the road. That doesn’t mean it’s going to take over the entire industry overnight. It will phase through the way every other car feature has: first in the high end cars, then over the course of the next 5 to 10 years working down to the economy cars. Even then it will be another 20 years before the majority of the non-self driving cars are off the road.
Can you not comprehend that I was TALKING ABOUT THINGS BEING IN DEVELOPMENT. I’ve only said it half a dozen times now.
Tesla’s autopilot is a step along the way, they’re working on self driving, and it won’t be LIDAR. And Oryx on the system, if they get the system right they sell it to car makers. Get into the guts of your car, lots of that stuff was bought BY your car company.
You started this argument with me. You decided on the tone of the argument. If you don’t like it, don’t be such a condescending ass.