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Snip Obamacare's monopolistic strings, let the free market compete
March 13, 2017 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 03/13/2017 12:54:44 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Responsibility2nd

What a dumb post. What I see is a lot of people with opinions who obviously haven’t been keeping up with Spicer’s press conferences and the information in posts 2&3. Uninformed opinions are turds just as much as “Ryan’s” bill.


41 posted on 03/13/2017 2:22:30 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Responsibility2nd; Lurkinanloomin

“I think he and Paul Ryan are the only two people in America that like this turd.”

But did you go to the website? Did you watch the video? You take an extremist, absolutist position. s/


42 posted on 03/13/2017 2:24:26 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: dynoman

Dude. Put your kneepads away and quit trolling for ObamaCare 2.0.


43 posted on 03/13/2017 2:24:34 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Poison Pill

Do you think the White House should scrap the plan on their site?

Three-Pronged Approach to Repeal and Replace Obamacare
https://www.whitehouse.gov/repeal-and-replace

If yes what’s your idea for negotiations starting point?


44 posted on 03/13/2017 2:25:55 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

Btw, if they’re really going to use all that mumbo jumbo as an excuse that they can’t repeal it until 2019, then go ahead and pass the repeal bill today, making if effective in 2019. And in the meantime, continue stripping and defunding obamacare wherever we can and do all we can to help private enterprise ramp up. This gives us a two year transition period. The goal would be to get federal control over our healthcare insurance industry completely gone by the effective date.


45 posted on 03/13/2017 2:26:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Dude, what about addressing the content instead of ad hominem attacks.


46 posted on 03/13/2017 2:26:40 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Carthego delenda est
I think he needs to tell Jim Rob his ideas here

Dear Mr. President: Do NOT under any circumstances endorse or sign RYANcare - it will destroy you
March 11, 2017 | Jim Robinson

are all wrong. And that he needs to look at the links in posts 2 and 3.

~Sheesh~

47 posted on 03/13/2017 2:29:30 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Carthego delenda est

Another stupid post. Get informed before you spew worthless ignorant opinions.

Three-Pronged Approach to Repeal and Replace Obamacare
https://www.whitehouse.gov/repeal-and-replace

President Trump Leads a Listening Session on Healthcare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts_C_WivWGI


48 posted on 03/13/2017 2:29:51 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: sargon

Ok, those states who refuse to go along with it are left out of the nationwide free market. Their loss. They may choose to join in later if it’s a proven cost saver. States are free to make those decisions.


49 posted on 03/13/2017 2:31:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: dynoman
what’s your idea for negotiations starting point?

Keeping quite and waiting for the inevitable. The best point of entry for this negotiation is when Obamacare is in a crater.

When you want to buy a stock, do you do it when the market is in freefall? No. You wait for everything to hit bottom.

50 posted on 03/13/2017 2:32:50 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: dynoman

Addressing the content?

I did that earlier today. I directly pointed out when, where and why you are wrong. Check out my posting history today for how I am specifically addressing the content to you and many others on how ObamaCare 2.0 is WRONG.

But you just go on posting your links if it makes you feel better.


51 posted on 03/13/2017 2:35:32 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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52 posted on 03/13/2017 2:36:32 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: RayChuang88
In short, the likes of Anthem Blue Cross/Blue Shield can sell similar health care insurance plans across multiple Western states, Kaiser Permanente does the same, Aetna does the same, etc.

The multi state insurance I am familiar with costs more whether you buy it through private insurance or it is offered through your employer. It costs more because they have to comply with the various state rules, etc..

53 posted on 03/13/2017 2:37:58 PM PDT by EVO X
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To: Responsibility2nd
What's Obamacare 2.0? This?
54 posted on 03/13/2017 2:39:06 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

That thing is nothing more than a bailout for Pelosi and Obama.


55 posted on 03/13/2017 2:40:59 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Responsibility2nd

What is RYANcare?

How is it different than what Trump published on the White house web site?


56 posted on 03/13/2017 2:41:02 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Jim Robinson

“Repeal every word of Obamacare.”

Only market solutions can fix this.


57 posted on 03/13/2017 2:45:10 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I just checked all your comments to me. Nothing of negotiating substance in them, which was my original point.


58 posted on 03/13/2017 2:45:26 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Jim Robinson

I don’t think Trump wants to kick those with preexisting conditions off their insurance by repealing ObamaCare. I think he’s made up his mind on this.

Jim, your proposal has merit and it might very well get adopted. I have an alternative.

First, those who have preexisting conditions would be grandfathered in, however after a set deadline those a preexisting condition would have to declare it. To stay covered they will have to continue to pay their premiums or lose coverage.

That’s why it would be wise for anyone after the deadline to buy insurance BEFORE they get sick. The transition period will spike insurance costs and subsidies that will be sunsetted should be used to offset the pain for voters.
This will provide political cover for the Republcans, which is what they want. In the end we can transition to a free market system but the transition is all important.

Graham and McCain won’t be happy even with this plan but all the pressure possible will need to be applied.


59 posted on 03/13/2017 2:48:08 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: TBP

Absolutely. But they’re claiming they don’t have the votes to do so. They also don’t have the votes to pass Ryancare. So it’s a stalemate. If they can’t break the deadlock (hopefully toward the freedom side), then the president and the secretary should continue using their authority where they can to defang this unconstitutional monstrosity. And then congress should be doing all they possibly can to defund it and promote free market solutions. Obamacare will crash and burn on it’s own if we cant repeal it.


60 posted on 03/13/2017 2:54:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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