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California mulls eliminating income tax for teachers
US News & World Report ^ | March 11, 2017 | Lauren Camera

Posted on 03/12/2017 4:55:48 AM PDT by C19fan

The state is hoping the first-of-its-kind proposal generates interest in the profession at a time when educators are harder to come by. California legislators are hoping a proposal to eliminate income tax for teachers will help attract young people into the profession and keep them there at a time when the state is hemorrhaging educators and lacks a pipeline.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: California
KEYWORDS: teachers
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To: C19fan

This is an across-the-board program, effectively raising all teachers salaries 3 to 4 percent, depending on tax bracket. It’s insane to give microscopic “incentives” to elementary school teachers and social studies teachers, who are in surplus, rather than targeting larger incentives to high school teachers, particularly math and science teachers, where there is a shortage.


61 posted on 03/12/2017 11:36:00 AM PDT by AZLiberty (A is now A once again.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

People used to be paid not to farm. Now they’re paid not to drive a bus.


62 posted on 03/12/2017 11:37:21 AM PDT by AZLiberty (A is now A once again.)
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To: AZLiberty
Why is any teacher more special than other workers who serve the public?

One example among many thousands:
Those who pick up the trash and garbage or see that the water in the faucets is potable are essential to the life of children and quality of their lives.

63 posted on 03/12/2017 11:42:58 AM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: Will88

“So, some who earn a certain amount in California have to pay state income tax and some don’t?”

This is SCOTUS fodder! There isn’t any way that they can do this without getting into trouble with the Constitution. But I want to see them try.


64 posted on 03/12/2017 12:07:34 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: C19fan

Extend this to corporations and all other individuals, and its a deal!


65 posted on 03/12/2017 12:08:52 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (April 2006 Message from Dan: http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm)
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To: AZLiberty; ExTexasRedhead

“People used to be paid not to farm. Now they’re paid not to drive a bus.”

“We don’t plant cotton, we don’t plant tatters, cause we get paid by the legislators for growing nuthin!”


66 posted on 03/12/2017 12:13:07 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: C19fan

Remember, public employees don’t pay taxes anyway. They are a net drain on GDP, they don’t ADD to it.

Repeat after me: public employees don’t pay taxes. It’s illusory.

Say this as many times as you need to until is sinks in. NO public employee pays ANYthing for taxes, retirement, unemployment insurance, medical benefits, ANY of it.

This is a fundament of economics as simple as “you get more of what you subsidize and less of what you tax.” and almost no one gets it and certainly no one is talking about it. Not out in the open. It’s contrary to how our consensus public education victimhood would have us think about wealth creation, redistribution, generational theft.

How can someone who is PAID by taxing the wage-earners, the ones who CREATE value in the economy, pay taxes? It may say they do on their pay stub, sure, and they are asked to “put in a little more” for benefits, but in reality, every time a public employee from President down to the least-paid garbage collector (cough-cough… don’t they make something like $200,000 a year in New York City?) gets a raise, it is paid for by someone who MAKES that money, someone who has been TAXED, that money taken from them. The money public employees are paid is redistributed from wage-earners, economic value-creators.

And no, I’m not saying teachers have no “value,” their labor when not promoting globalist lies like global warming is inestimable, but again, they are paid WITH tax money.

Think of it this way: a public employee saying they too pay taxes is like a man soaking in a bathtub scooping up and pouring out water with a cup saying “see, I’m filling the tub.”

Think it over. Change the conversation. Pass it along. Open someone else’s eyes.

The discussion should be, are we truly getting value for our money spent and how do we take control of government “by, of and for the people” back from politicians corrupted by taxpayers dollars laundered through teachers/public employee unions, planned parenthood, Solyndra, GE, and all the rest?

While we’re at it, how do we delegitimize the naming of roads, public buildings, parks, stadiums after “public officials” who have made a lifetime’s wealth out of bilking the true wage-earners out of the fruits of their labor and, like Mooch hell Obeyme, Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton, Elizabeth Warren, done their level best to make them feel guilty for wanting to keep more of it while they live large at wage earners’ children’s children’s children’s expense.


67 posted on 03/12/2017 2:47:56 PM PDT by normbal (normbal. somewhere in socialist occupied America)
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To: C19fan
ah the teachers...again...the hardest profession...NOT!...

teachers when I was young were good, simple people who treated their profession like a vocation...

now, they're every college student who can't make it in other difficult fields....

the easiest degree to get with the lowest standards.....

what a bunch of crap....

68 posted on 03/12/2017 3:44:00 PM PDT by cherry (<_)
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To: vooch
there is no teacher shortage either....I know many people that can not BUY a position....

and did everybody see the teacher in that photo?.....how many "professionals" get away wearing a tee shirt and jeans to school....

but the commies always treat their party people special...

if teachers get away with this, then the cops and garbage men and the social workers and firemen and all the cali govt employees should get away with it....

69 posted on 03/12/2017 3:49:55 PM PDT by cherry (<_)
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To: C19fan
California legislators are hoping a proposal to eliminate income tax for teachers

In exchange for what?

70 posted on 03/12/2017 3:52:09 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: EVO X
their pay does not stink....they have superior benefits, their pay goes up substantially year in and year out, they never have to worry about being fired, they have generous sick leave as well as sabbatical days and time off for pregnancies and THEY WORK ONLY HALF THE YEAR.....

funny how people forget they work so little....

71 posted on 03/12/2017 3:52:43 PM PDT by cherry (<_)
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To: cherry

Half the year?


72 posted on 03/12/2017 3:59:16 PM PDT by Freee-dame (Best election ever.)
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To: napscoordinator
I question your numbers....teachers like to say how little they make coming out of the their easy college courses, but the money goes up pretty rapidly....

then, its all hush hush....

where I live, every little tele course they take on "wild insects of the north" they get a boost in their pay...

I guess I'm assuming that they are talking about STATE income tax.....NYS already exempts its most favored communists from their state tax....as I recall, they still say they have a teaching "shortage".....

73 posted on 03/12/2017 3:59:54 PM PDT by cherry (<_)
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To: wintertime
teachers are not essential...in a crisis, they can stay home like the banksters.....

but cut the garbage collection for a couple of weeks...then you have a huge problem...

teachers could stay home for the entire year. It wouldn't natter...

74 posted on 03/12/2017 4:02:35 PM PDT by cherry (<_)
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To: Freee-dame
180 or so days....365 days in a year....they work short days...every weekend off...every holiday off...early June off til early September...then throw in the long Christmas vacation, the day after Thanksgiving, the spring/Easter break and many 3 day weekends....

even with that, they'll argue that they don't have enough time off....<>Pand the famous "I do so much work at home"....

75 posted on 03/12/2017 4:06:57 PM PDT by cherry (<_)
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To: C19fan

Yes, since they turn around and are a major donor to Democrats, I agree.


76 posted on 03/12/2017 4:25:20 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: C19fan

I tried dating a california public school teacher once. Luckily I got out early. So much crazy for one woman.


77 posted on 03/12/2017 4:49:28 PM PDT by BestPresidentEver
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To: cherry
Just have the water supply people go on strike for a day and people are immediately impacted. In less than a day or two there are deaths. But somehow they are not special but teachers are.

Please read my tag line.

78 posted on 03/12/2017 4:53:39 PM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: C19fan

We already pay for their health care, wages, and they turn out the worst education available in the USA, now they want it all tax free?

Over my dead cold body!

I’m ready to kick their liberal asses to of education AND the country!


79 posted on 03/12/2017 7:33:54 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Trump IS MY president and I'm damn proud of him!)
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To: Randy Larsen

“I’m ready to kick their liberal asses to of education AND the country!”

I ment Out!

I’m so pissed I can’t even type with one finger!


80 posted on 03/12/2017 7:43:54 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Trump IS MY president and I'm damn proud of him!)
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