Posted on 03/11/2017 10:22:25 PM PST by ForYourChildren
Congressman Louie Gohmert (98% CR) (Badass constitutional conservative – TX), appearing on Fox & Friends Saturday morning, reminded America that the House and Senate with Republican majorities, already passed a full of repeal of Obamacare and sent it to Obama’s desk in 2015, and that bill met the requirements of the so-called “Byrd rule,” which allowed for its passage through the budget reconciliation process — meaning that a full repeal of Obamacare could again pass the Senate with only 51 votes and be sent to President Trump’s desk (Obama, of course, repealed the 2015 bill).
“We did a more complete repeal two years ago and when our leadership says, ‘Well, you gotta remember under reconciliation we have all these limitations’ — guys, we did this two years ago so it is already passed through the Senate requirements. It’s already passed by the stupid Byrd rule!”
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(Excerpt) Read more at politistick.com ...
"Why the GOP is scared to repeal: Obama’s not there to protect them with a veto "
The GOP is the little doggie.
Lots of noise when on a leash, with Obama protecting them. But now that nothing is holding them back, well, they just cant seem to pass those same repeal bills that they have been bringing up for the last few years.
"Why the GOP is scared to repeal: Obama’s not there to protect them with a veto "
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3533663/posts
They are afraid the media won’t love them if they actually repeal it.
Pray America woke
No matter who thinks what, the washington cabal is the same group of we are smarter than you little people. Hang every one fo the b@stards.
I haven’t lost faith in President Trump. He’s clearly open to negotiations, he’s meeting with conservatives, he’s met with representatives from the Tea Party.
This is what he does best—negotiate. He understands what his base expects. I’m comfortable letting the process play out. Even if Congress passes RINO Care, it will flame out in the Senate. The President will have to step in.
Definitely the case.
The GOP was absolutely full of shit with those repeal bills, knowing full well that they would go nowhere, and that the demonrats would let them perform their usual useless kabuki theater.
The GOP is a bunch of pretenders. They are not an opposition party by any means.
Their entire party platform is a fraud.
Agreed.
The problem here is not Trump.
But he does have to be careful, because the GOP detests him, and will use this to hurt him.
Agreed. But I think Trump can handle the GOPe just fine. He’s always several moves ahead. They play checkers, he plays 3d chess.
My mind keeps going back to the fact that he built a multi billion dollar company. You don’t accomplish that without learning how to handle backstabbers and other evil doers. In the business world, when you have Trump money, the barbarians are always at the gate, trying to relieve you of it all.
That is definitely true.
Except I don’t even the the Republicans can play checkers.
I think they are still at Tic Tac Toe, but they have never won a single game of it, even playing against themselves.
I agree with you. I think they want to dash his hopes of re-election in 2020, and what better way than to sabotage him with this boondoggle of a so-called, repeal and replace health-care bill? Trump should wise up and never trust Ryan. Ryan is that snake from the poem that Trump so often recited.
Hate to be the one who has to introduce some actual facts into this debate, but here is the Congressional Research Service summary of the “Complete Obamacare Repeal” Bill Passed by the House and Senate and vetoed by President Obama. Looks more like “Obamacare Defund” to me.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/3762?r=1
Shown Here:
Passed Senate amended (12/03/2015)
TITLE I—HEALTH, EDUCATION, LABOR, AND PENSIONS
(Sec. 101) This bill amends the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) to terminate the Prevention and Public Health Fund, which provides for investment in prevention and public health programs to improve health and restrain the rate of growth in health care costs. Unobligated funds are rescinded.
(Sec. 102) Funding for community health centers is increased.
(Sec. 103) Certain funding for U.S. territories that establish health insurance exchanges is no longer available after 2017.
(Sec. 104) The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) may not collect fees or make payments under the transitional reinsurance program.
(Sec. 105) This bill makes appropriations for FY2016 and FY2017 for HHS to award grants to states to address substance abuse or to respond to urgent mental health needs.
TITLE II—FINANCE
(Sec. 201) This bill amends the Internal Revenue Code to require individuals to pay back the full amount of advance payments in excess of their premium assistance tax credit. (Currently, there is a limit on the amount of excess an individual must pay back.)
(Sec. 202) Provisions relating to the premium assistance tax credit, reduced cost-sharing, and eligibility determinations for these subsidies are repealed on December 31, 2017.
(Sec. 203) The small employer health insurance tax credit does not apply after 2017. (This credit is for certain employers who make contributions toward employee health coverage purchased through a health insurance exchange.)
(Sec. 204) The penalty for individuals who do not maintain minimum essential health care coverage is eliminated.
(Sec. 205) Large employers are no longer required to make shared responsibility payments.
(Sec. 206) For one year, this bill restricts the availability of federal funding to a state for payments to an entity (e.g., Planned Parenthood Federation of America) that:
is a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization;
is an essential community provider primarily engaged in family planning services and reproductive health;
provides for abortions other than abortions in cases of rape or incest, or where a physical condition endangers a woman’s life unless an abortion is performed; and
received a total of more than $350 million under Medicaid in FY2014, including payments to affiliates, subsidiaries, successors, or clinics.
(Sec. 207) This bill amends part A (General Provisions) of title XI of the Social Security Act (SSAct) to require the additional payments to U.S. territories for Medicaid under the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010 to be made by the end of FY2017 instead of the end of FY2019.
This bill amends title XIX (Medicaid) of the SSAct to end the expansion of Medicaid under PPACA on December 31, 2017.
After 2017, hospitals may no longer elect to provide Medicaid services to individuals during a presumptive eligibility period.
States must maintain Medicaid eligibility standards for individuals under 19 years old through FY2017 instead of through FY2019.
The federal medical assistance percentage (FMAP, the federal matching rate for Medicaid expenditures) for U.S. territories is 50% after 2017 (currently, the FMAP is 55%).
The increased FMAP for childless adults and home and community-based attendant services under PPACA ends December 31, 2017.
After 2017, states may no longer elect to provide certain individuals with a presumptive eligibility period for Medicaid.
Medicaid benchmark plans are no longer required to provide minimum essential health benefits after 2017.
After 2017, states are no longer required to operate a website for Medicaid enrollment that is linked to the state’s health benefit exchange and Children’s Health Insurance program (CHIP).
(Sec. 208) Medicaid allotments for disproportionate share hospitals are increased.
(Sec. 209) The excise tax on high cost employer-sponsored health coverage (popularly known as the “Cadillac tax”) does not apply after 2017.
(Sec. 210) Health savings accounts (HSAs), Archer medical savings accounts (MSAs), health flexible spending arrangements (HFSAs), and health reimbursement arrangements may be used to pay for over-the-counter medications.
(Sec. 211) This bill lowers the tax on distributions from HSAs and Archer MSAs that are not used for medical expenses.
(Sec. 212) Salary reduction contributions to an HFSA under a cafeteria plan are no longer limited.
(Sec. 213) The annual fee on manufacturers and importers of brand name prescription drugs is eliminated.
(Sec. 214) The excise tax on medical devices is eliminated.
(Sec. 215) The annual fee on health insurers is eliminated.
(Sec. 216) Medical costs are allowed as a tax deduction regardless of whether the costs are taken into account when determining the amount of the subsidy for an employer-sponsored retiree prescription drug plan under Medicare part D (Voluntary Prescription Drug Benefit Program).
(Sec. 217) A tax deduction is allowed for medical expenses in excess of 7.5% (currently, 10%) of adjusted gross income.
(Sec. 218) The additional Medicare tax on income above a certain threshold is eliminated.
(Sec. 219) The indoor tanning services tax is eliminated.
(Sec. 220) The net investment income tax is eliminated.
(Sec. 221) A health insurer is allowed a tax deduction for the full amount of an employee’s compensation. (Currently, there is a limit on the amount of an employee’s compensation that a health insurer may deduct.)
(Sec. 222) Provisions relating to the economic substance doctrine are repealed. (The economic substance doctrine treats a transaction as having economic substance if it has a purpose other than reducing income taxes. Currently, there are penalties for claiming tax benefits for transactions without economic substance.)
(Sec. 223) Funds are transferred from the Department of the Treasury to the Federal Hospital Insurance Trust Fund.
We are moving toward socialized medicine and there seems no way to avoid it. We elect lobbyist puppets whose primary interest is reelection first and lining their own pockets secondly. As a conservative who listened to and voted for the Republicans for repeal and replace for the past seven years, I now find they are no damn better than than the liars preceding them.
what is so insulting and disgusting is they dont even care that we remember what they did when they knew barky would repeal.
They are owned by k street. Lock stock and barrel.
bingo........
Exactly - the GOPe RINOs are not on our side - the question is, how far are they willing to go to stymie Trump (the People)....
If you know you can do something, but you choose to do something else, it’s because you believe the something else is better for you.
So Ryan and his cohorts believe that what they proposed is better for THEM.
What exactly did the 2015 bill do?
(Were there some question, it would not have been passed in the first place.)
Trump needs to veto anything that is not a full repeal. Anything he accepts hil be attributed to him. He will own it and any tweak/fudge rename of obamacare will bung hung around his neck if he allows it and the act of accepting a bad bill will make it harder to get anything else. Unfortunately, so long as he plays by the rules he cannot accomplish anything long term. He can get the nation a breathing space of a few years but as soon as he is gone it will all be status quo ante very quickly.
Fiddling and tweaking. No good. It is NOT repeal.It leaves the monster in place, just wounded and very much more expensive to the economy because of all the “supplemental appropriations” and retweaks that will be “required,” probably within a year.
Headed straight for the “necessity” of going to Single Payer.
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