Posted on 03/11/2017 10:29:07 AM PST by detective
So it seems clearnot just to me, but to most other journalists and health wonks Ive communicated with over the last two daysthat Paul Ryan has introduced a bill that he doesnt want to pass.
This seems crazy on its face. Destroying Obama has been the core aim of conservatism for the better part of a decade. The Tea Party movement sprang to life opposing it, during those ferocious town halls of 2009. Congress voted who knows how many times to repeal it. Repeal was the one pledge every single Republican candidate made, from Donald Trump on down to poor Jim Gilmore. And Im sure if you asked your average Limbaugh fan or InfoWars devotee whats the one thing the Republicans should do above all else?, the answer would surely be repeal Obamacare.
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If memory serves, the Republicans passed four separate repeal bills, all of which were vetoed by Obama.
Why is a completely new bill (RINO/RYANCare) needed? Why can’t one of the previous ones be dusted off and sent to Trump?
Possibly because he might actually sign it?
At this point, it’s hard to determine which party is killing itself quicker.
Ryan is no kind of conservative so that explains that.
Wishful thinking.
If they wanted a bill that would not pass, the house could pass a straight up clean repeal bill that will fail in the senate because they don’t have 60 seats there.
And campaign on that, while targeting Dem senators.
This bill isn’t that.
I think there is perhaps too much “cleverness” in Washington.
But I think Trump may be setting the stage for Obamacare to implode. He knows it will. But if he sits by and lets it happen, he looks bad. So the Republicans are “trying” to fix it. But — gosh darn it — their bill isn’t that popular. The Democrats don’t like it. Many Republicans don’t like. Hmmmmmmmmmm. No quick fix. Time marches on. But don’t worry folks, we “trying”.
Eventually, Obamacare WILL implode and then Congress will deregulate the whole industry and anyone who blocks them will be tarred and feathered.
I believe they’ve learned that not everything in life can be free .... including health care.
“If memory serves, the Republicans passed four separate repeal bills, all of which were vetoed by Obama.”
I think that probably these bills, which they knew would never be signed into law by Obola, were just foils. Now that they are in charge, they have to come up with something that really works. Unfortunately, it seems that they haven’t been working on that reality for the past eight years, so now they’re in a political hole because Trump won and they now have to face doing their “real jobs!” Some days, I really do think that the GOPe would really like to go back to being a worthless opposition where they have the trappings of their offices, but no real responsibility to do anything but live the good life in DC at our expense. It must really be “awful” to be them today what with all their donors now expecting them to do their bidding when that “bidding” goes directly against their constituents expectations. So at the end of the day, they are all just “worthless $hit!”
Its is RINOcare. It is horrible. I am hopeful that Trump will get rid of preexisting conditions that we don’t want to pay for and these insane and unfair transfers of wealth via “tax credits” . Also we want AMENDMENTS!! LIKE ALL LAWS IN CONGRESS!!
All they have to do is send a full repeal vote.
If the Dems and RINOs don't like it, fine - they did their jobs then. Those Dems and RINOs will be targeted in 2018.
Those bills were just political grandstanding, unless you really beleive they had an alternative ready to go.
Yes I know some don’t want any alternative but that’s not what Trump ran and won on, nor does it serve the public interst because the federal governement under Obama dismantled the private health insurance industry. There is no “back” to go to.
Look at this smug bastard. Does anyone believe that Ryan is loyal to and respects the Trump administration?
I think if Trump saw this photo, he'd be making some phone calls.
(This photo should go viral.)
If any health care plan is to succeed, it will need to have support from Conservatives. Unfortunately, Ryan and McConnell burned their bridges with Republicans a long time ago. The animosity is deep. No one trusts them.
This is what happens when you alienate your base.
That photo captures Ryan’s snake-in-the-grass essence.
Ryan probably figured if he could sell it to Trump we would all fall in line behind it.
Ryancare is Obamacare rearranged, not repealed.
Looking at the three phases and how the last one sets up a showdown in 2020, it almost looks like it was designed to defeat Trump’s re-election.
Please explain the concerns with the bill... It’s a serious request so please avoid general trigger words. Just assume I don’t know what is meant by the caddilac rax
How is a tax credit a transfer of wealth? It’s just another way to keep more of my money from the government. Please explain why this is a problem
Yea, I can’t figure the alternative that he Rand’s of the world have right now. Once it’s repealed you still need to do something. At least allow shopping across state lines but if you can’t get that passed then what? Conservatives are doing very bad job explaining their plan, if they have one. I’m completely open to hearing one
Please explain how it’s Obamacare lite. Thanks...
Well, bear in mind that a lot of the complaining that claims to come from conservatives are from never-Trumpers eager to say that they told us so.
A lot of the complaining. Not all of it, but a lot.
Now, ‘repeal, don’t replace’ is going to be given to you if anything is, I’m sure. Though the problem is the explanation of how it will manage to pass the Senate or even the House, what with all the bastards warming seats who want it to stay.
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