Posted on 03/11/2017 4:29:31 AM PST by HomerBohn
With his call for Vice President Mike Pence to lead an investigation of vote fraud, President Trump has not given up on documenting his much-maligned claim that more than 3 million illegal-alien voters cost him the nationwide popular vote last November.
Amid vehement objection and ridicule from the left, there are many election experts who agree with the president that widespread vote fraud exists, including illegal-alien voting.
But they think it’s unwise to make any estimates of the number of illegal voters, because there is no hard data at the moment.
Yet, that likely will change with access now to records that were kept under wraps by the Obama administration.
J. Christian Adams, who worked in the Justice Department’s Voting Rights Section under President George W. Bush and now heads the non-profit Public Interest Law Foundation, emphasized to WND that “data-driven conclusions are the most valid.”
“Overstating the amount of alien voting without actual empirical data harms the effort to clean voter rolls,” he said.
Adams said his group currently is “gathering real data in Virginia, names of aliens, their original voter registration forms and similar evidence.”
While he and his colleagues have run into resistance, requiring federal court intervention in some instances, they have obtained voter-registration records from eight of Virginia’s 133 cities and counties, discovering 1,046 illegal aliens were illegally registered to vote. He’s also forced several counties to clean up their voter rolls in states such as Mississippi and Texas.
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The Republicans surely don't want the level of voting fraud to become known. They don't want to do anything to make the Democrats mad. It might cut into their lobbyist money.
Ref Post 3....Require ALL voters to display an official American passport and my bet is voter fraud will go WWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY down!
I wager that the majority of voter fraud comes from Legal Permanent Residents (LPR), i.e., green card holders. At any one time there are 15 to 20 million of them. They have all the rights and privileges of citizens and are impossible to discover at the polls. I have been both a poll watcher and voting officer.
Most states require just a box to check declaring whether you are a US citizen or not when you register to vote. There are no requirements providing proof of citizenship. LPRs have valid SSNs and driver's licenses. They can provide government issued IDs of various sorts as well as utility bills, property tax invoices, etc.
I have no doubt illegal aliens are voting using stolen documents, but most of voter fraud is committed by LPRs, US citizens voting multiple times in different states, and outdated voter registration rolls that even allow the dead to vote. The Dems have voter fraud down to an art form. Look at Detroit. They had to stop the recount because the Detroit election records or lack thereof didn't support the vote totals.
Only 36 percent of Americans hold a valid passport, according to the State Department, compared to 60 percent of passport-holding Canadians and 75 percent for Brits and Aussies.
The theme song at the DNC should be ZOMBIE JAMBOREE, they do love the “undead” voters.
I think it needs to be quantified, publicized to the middle, and many perps and vote controllers arrested.
And purge the roles, require photo ID and purple thumbprint, eliminate same day registrations, limit absentee voting.
throw his Halfrican arse in prison.
Obama WAS voter fraud.
On November 8 2016 I served as a polling inspector for my precinct, in one of only two counties in Florida to have gone blue for Clinton.
What I witnessed during the twelve hours you are there as an inspector was blatant in your face fraud during the voting process. The designated “observers” said nothing. So many individuals arrived who could not speak or read English, that poll workers (who were bi-lingual) were designated to assist them by translating the ballot into spoken Spanish, because these so-called “citizens” were unable to even READ the Spanish version of the ballot.
Ultimately though, it was the Florida legislature which paved the way for all of this, by statutorily emasculating the election laws, requiring only a drivers license (motor voter)to prove eligibility to vote, plus the checking off by the voter of a box which states “I attest that I am a U.S. citizen.” Laughable crumbs thrown at the citizenship requirement by our betters in the state legislature.
We the polling inspectors were given strict orders during training PROHIBITING us from requiring or demanding any kind of documentation to prove citizenship. Everyone who showed up to vote was to receive a ballot, no matter what, with only one or two technical exceptions, such as the system showing the person appearing in front of us had previously voted by mail.
The real horror of the 2016 U.S. presidential election is that, had it been held in a third world country, it probably would have been declared illegal even there. That’s how far the U.S. has fallen at the hands of the meddling liberal lawyer/legislator, who gleefully gives away our most fundamental and cherished and hard-fought right, the right to vote, to the illegal alien horde.
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Agreed
absentee ballots should be restricted to ONLY those with a legitimate reason for doing so.
You know, like it used to be.
My National Voting Day idea should be adopted. Everyone had a COW over my suggesting it be paid. Okay, forget that for now. Just consider the idea.
I have advocated for a national day of voting holiday for a long time.
1. Election day made a PAID national holiday. Everyone gets the day off.
a. There would have to be provisions made for essential personnel, police, fire, hospitals, etc. (NOT for Walmart) .....Details.
b. Payment can be worked out. Who pays, how much, tax credit, lump sum, variable based on income. ....Details.
EVERYONE votes on election day during the same period of time.
(minor exceptions for Hawaii and any other far flung places). ....Details
2. The polls open and close at the exact same “moment” nationwide.
a. By the clocks, times would be different across the country because of time zones, but everyone would be voting during the same “time frame”.
We are only talking 5 hours here. Polls in the east could open at 10 am and close at 10 pm. 12 hours of voting, should be enough. You’ve got all day instead of trying to squeeze it in before work, during lunch, after work. 8 hours of your voting day is now spent at work, unavailable to you for voting.
Let’s say 1 hour before work, 1 hour at lunch, and 3 hours after work. That’s only FIVE hours instead of TWELVE and almost everyone else was in line trying to vote at the same time!
Polls in Alaska could open at 6 am and close at 6 pm.
Later in the east, earlier in the west. Hours available for actual voting would have to be shortened (only by 4 hours in NY), BUT everyone has the day off. No 6 pm to 9 pm after work/dinner crunch.
If overcrowding at some polling places would likely occur, create MORE polling places. ....Details.
3. Make it illegal for the press or anyone else to release ANY voting data before the polls have CLOSED.
Remember, ALL polls are closing at the exact same moment! No way for one state’s results to influence another’s.
NO EXIT POLLING! They’ll just have to WAIT for “ACTUAL RESULTS”, how droll.
NO EARLY VOTING! Absentee ballots should only be used by the infirmed, active duty military, overseas citizens, etc. You know, like it USED TO BE.
No more Florida 2000s where Dan Rather et al, caused the election debacle in Florida, falsely declaring Gore the winner in Florida, when the polls were still OPEN in the Panhandle, a Republican stronghold.
Note: I used to think this was just an F*** up (Foul up), but with what I know today, I’m convinced it was a deliberate attempt by the liberal media to throw the Presidential election to the Democrats.
Bonus: You might have to or want to take your kids to the polls. A VERY teachable moment! Make voting a FAMILY affair. Train up the youngens to VOTE.
Bonus: You could have voting parties, rallies, get togethers. You could go to the polls together. (designated drivers)
To avoid added pressure on police, ambulance, and hospitals, make your parties, Party Specific R or D. Undecideds, fence sitters, not fully committed, voters will still attend your gathering. It could be a chance to sway a few more votes your way. Take them with you to the polls!
Election day may well be the most important day of the year for our country. (WOW was I prescient here!) We DESERVE fair elections, devoid of FRAUD.
I know many will object to the “PAID” idea, but what is more important to spend our money on than fair elections?
Just another part of the 0bama Legacy.
Illegals engaged in illegal voting should be considered high risk and deported. I would make this a priority because makes them an example for the public.
If illegals know that voting puts them in the same category as those that commit serious crimes, they won’t risk voting.
If an illegal wants to stay here, they had better maintain a low profile.
I didn’t address voter ID. YES, voter picture ID REQUIRED! PERIOD.
Restricting absentee voting is a must. I could not go to the polling place and claim to be someone else. THEY KNOW ME THERE. Also, right there in the book are my signatures from past elections. Would some illegal (who would have to look like me) know how to forge my signature?
“In person”, “picture ID”, voting is CRITICAL in avoiding fraud.
Early voting is SCAM. It’s just so Democrats can have more time to RIG the election.
Unless you require ALL to provide PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP before they can REGISTER TO VOTE, the other actions you propose will not be effective.
I find interesting the GOVERNMENT can ‘wire tap’ our cell phones, computers, email, and TV and store all of that data for later review, but that same GOVERNMENT is unable to determine if people on the Voter Registration Rolls are alive, felons, non-citizens, registered elsewhere, or mentally capable.
The primary reason we have voter fraud, and lots of it, is the fault of only one group - Republican office holders.
Fraud only exists because elected Republicans are too cowardly to fight it. They don’t want the Washington Post or New York Times calling them racists.
They only care about themselves, and since most of them are in gerrymandered districts, they think illegal voting for democrats in their democrat districts doesn’t affect them.
But then, statewide races, where all the votes are counted, are affected by the fraudulent votes. The result is a Terry McAuliffe or Jerry Brown and all the other statewide offices.
Force these Republican cowards to fight back with laws and enforcement and the vote fraud will be cleaned up.
Allow the McConnells to deny it exists only perpetuates the problem.
The ungrateful dead at that!
History is an important lesson. At the very least this phony should be denied benefits....all of them!
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