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Did the New York Times already tell us Trump was ‘wiretapped’?
The New York Post ^ | March 8, 2017 | John Crudele

Posted on 03/08/2017 9:20:45 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The New York Times has a dilemma. Like every other newspaper, the Times characterized as baseless President Trump’s recent accusation that his campaign was wiretapped. Or, more precisely, the paper said that Trump didn’t provide any evidence of the alleged wiretapping.

Fair enough. Trump didn’t give any proof. He just sent out one of his infamous tweets. But does that mean he’s wrong? I’ll get back to that.

The reason the Times has a dilemma is that, on Jan. 20, the paper ran a front page story with the headline “Wiretapped Data Used in Inquiry of Trump Aides.”

There were four bylines on that story, which read, “American law enforcement and intelligence agencies are examining intercepted communications and financial transactions as part of a broad investigation into possible links between Russian officials and associates of President-elect Donald J. Trump, including former campaign chairman Paul Manafort, current and former senior American officials said.”

So, would the Times like to retract the Jan. 20 front page article? Or would it like to amend its piece about Trump’s allegations that his campaign was wiretapped by adding, “Trump may not have proof, but the Times confirmed back in January that wiretapping did occur.”(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: bugging; espionage; gchqisbritsnsa; gchqownedbynsa; media; memoryhole; muscular; newyorktimes; obama; obamagate; trump; trumptowergate; wiretapping
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Uh, oh. This story is no longer stuck at Breitbart, Gateway Pundit and here. The New York Post is a major newspaper in the biggest city in the country.
1 posted on 03/08/2017 9:20:45 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well the only possible answer is that the NYTimes must know that they themselves are liars. How do you get transcripts of conversations without wiretaps? That one’s hard to ponder.


2 posted on 03/08/2017 9:25:00 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Way to step in your own dog poo, NYSlimes.


3 posted on 03/08/2017 9:25:13 PM PST by TXBlair (We will not forget Benghazi.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But crickets are still forthcoming from the Times itself. I love irony so much. 8>)


4 posted on 03/08/2017 9:26:06 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Robert DeLong
Post is a little behind. The Times tried to weasel word back track earlier.

Read the whole article - check this article out - Liz Spayd - Public Editor:

NYTimes PublicEditor

Elisabeth Bumiller, the bureau chief, said the January story was referring to information picked up from wiretaps and other intelligence collected overseas, a process that requires no warrants.
5 posted on 03/08/2017 9:37:56 PM PST by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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“But crickets are still forthcoming from the Times itself. I love irony so much. 8>)”

That in of itself is very telling. I think Trump has the goods on them.


6 posted on 03/08/2017 9:38:52 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: stylin19a

Even if it was overseas it is still illegal to share the private American citizen side of things. Personally I think the nyt is trying to weasel out of it as stated.


7 posted on 03/08/2017 9:40:53 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Parley Baer

zactley right.


8 posted on 03/08/2017 9:45:13 PM PST by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So this guy thinks it was the NSA acting on its own that did the wiretapping and that Obama didn’t order it. Seems like he’s ignoring the October FISA request though. Or maybe he thinks the NSA tapping was totally separate from that.


9 posted on 03/08/2017 9:46:19 PM PST by Yardstick
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10 posted on 03/08/2017 9:50:04 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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Trying to walk this back, now, isn't going to work and the more that the N.Y. Slimes plays word games and lies, the worse they look. There's far too much info out, about this, now. And we all KNOW that Clapper ID A CONGENITAL LIAR; not to mention a perjurer before Congress !
11 posted on 03/08/2017 9:52:03 PM PST by nopardons
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wondered how long it would take. Will the NYT ever figure it out and cop to it?


12 posted on 03/08/2017 9:59:54 PM PST by RTUT
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The NY Times will attempt to claim "But wait, Donald Trump wasn't the target of these wiretaps; it was someone or something else, you see. Therefore his entire rant is invalid."

Democrat and Establishment (but I repeat myself) talking heads will appear on all programs and, speaking with a straight face, parrot the Times' "reasonable explanation".

The punditry will use it as example of how President Trump is wrong about everything, and they'll try to cement the narrative that the distinction in wiretap targets is somehow meaningful with respect to the President's accusation.

In short, the Democrats and Media (but I repeat myself again) will simply double down, and the ugly Truth of their crimes will have to be wrung out of these crooks and saboteurs, one drip at a time, until they realize that they are not merely a laughingstock with the American people, but are indeed seen and despised as the Enemy of the American people.

There is a dangerous game that's afoot with the Tyrants with this "conservative/populist" movement. One of the two entities vying for power in the federal government right now is the Enemy, and the other is our Friend and Ally.

Every decent, patriotic American in this country will eventually have to make a decision as to who is who. They will effectively be staking their life, and those of their loved ones, on which is which; they will have to decide what it really means to be an responsible American.

Therefore, We The People will win this Revolution (and make no mistake, that's what this movement is) and the Criminals, the Totalitarian Left, the True Fascists, the elitist Globalist oppressors, will lose...

13 posted on 03/08/2017 10:00:31 PM PST by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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Yes, they did.

http://cdn.newsbusters.org/styles/blog_body-100/s3/images/nyt_wiretap.jpg?itok=J8I0Qe7o


14 posted on 03/08/2017 10:04:45 PM PST by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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The NYT needs to read their own articles so they can know what they are saying.

On Jan. 1, 1901, the NYT said “welcome to the 20th century”. (correct)

On Jan. 1, 2000, they indicated it was the start of the new millennium. Meaning the 20th century was 99 years long, according to them.


15 posted on 03/08/2017 10:05:08 PM PST by JohnEBoy
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She thinks that answers the questions? It actually raises more questions. Where were these foreign wiretaps done from? Were foreign governments behind it or American intelligence agencies? Does the fact that they came from these foreign sources relieve legal responsibilities for them being distributed within our intelligence communities? Were these foreign entities instructed to perform this activity, and if so by whom and when? How do we even know that these wiretaps even exist? Has anyone heard them? Has anyone verified that the actors on the wiretaps are the players claimed to be via voice recognition software? Is that even allowable in a court of law in the Untied States?

That's just a few question I personally came up with very quickly.

16 posted on 03/08/2017 10:40:12 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Parley Baer

Well-informed posters like you are greatly appreciated. You add much clarity.


17 posted on 03/09/2017 1:55:33 AM PST by EliRoom8
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To: stylin19a
Elisabeth Bumiller, the bureau chief, said the January story was referring to information picked up from wiretaps and other intelligence collected overseas, a process that requires no warrants.

In a way, that is a meaningless distinction. It is illegal to spy on a US citizen without a warrant, period.

There are no exceptions for spying from physical locations outside of the US.

18 posted on 03/09/2017 2:11:11 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Another aspect of this whole story is that the supposed collusion between Trump/Trump associates and Russia is all about business deals. In other words, the MSM is trying to gin up calls for Trump’s head over perfectly legal activity (although the President has already said that he has not done business with Russia).

Meanwhile, the MSM still shows absolutely no curiosity about Hillary’s illegal taking of bribes from Russia through her money-laundering “foundation” and selling them 1/5 of our uranium supply in return. That is a true national security issue, which the MSM cares nothing about.

I hope that along with ordering investigations of the illegal spying on US citizens, Trump also pushes forward on the investigation of Hillary and her actual colluding with Russia for political gain.


19 posted on 03/09/2017 2:19:01 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: stylin19a

They still stepped in it, because that statement by Bumiller means that 0 asked the Brits (or Canada, Australia, or New Zealand) to listen in & then give the info to him.


20 posted on 03/09/2017 2:33:52 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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