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Does Times Reporting Support Donald Trump’s Wiretap Claim? (NY Times Implosion Underway)
The New York Times ^ | MARCH 8, 2017 | Liz Spayd THE PUBLIC EDITOR

Posted on 03/08/2017 7:32:28 AM PST by Helicondelta

Several readers have written in this week saying they’re having a hard time squaring The Times’s own past reports of wiretapping with the paper’s assertions that there is no firm evidence that any warrants for wiretaps have been issued. Readers also expressed confusion with The Times’s assertion that it would be illegal for a White House to receive information about such investigations, when its own wiretapping story in January said the Trump White House was given some information from intercepted communications.

“For months now the NY Times and many other mainstream news sources has been running stories based on anonymous leaks saying that a massive investigation was going on into Trump and company’s Russian dealings based on wiretaps and intel intercepts,” wrote John Penley of Asheville, N.C. “Now Obama officials are saying this all never happened so my question is this: Why have the NY Times and others been saying it has for months now basing their stories on anonymous leaks?”

I reached out to editors in the Washington bureau to seek their help in clarifying the difference between Clapper’s — and The Times’s — assertions that no warrants had been issued, and the reference to wiretapping in the January story.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: Williams

LOL. Don’t neglect the CPUSA, S0r0$, and CIA funded WaPo.


21 posted on 03/08/2017 7:44:59 AM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: Helicondelta

Comb your hair Liz, or is the reason your hair is so messy because you are spinning so hard?


22 posted on 03/08/2017 7:45:42 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: ifinnegan

You have to remember this was written for consumption by regular NYT readers. To be true in these people’s mind all the the NYT has to say is “this is what’s true today, check back tomorrow for tomorrow’s truth”.


23 posted on 03/08/2017 7:45:51 AM PST by hardspunned
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To: Helicondelta
Better if The Times helps readers understand this crucial story than let others, with flagrant political motives, do so.

Yeah, right. No one would ever accuse the NY Times of having flagrant political motives.

24 posted on 03/08/2017 7:46:13 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: ptsal

“Brand value of the NY Times seems to be slipping.”

And all it took was a handful of tweets.


25 posted on 03/08/2017 7:46:34 AM PST by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: Mr. Douglas

Little did the Times realize that by being involved in the leaks that they might actually hurt their cause.

Trump played this masterfully!

Beside the spotlight is squarely focused on the agencies and those who are leaking. It was less important to the agencies before Trump made his accusation, now there is very likely some housecleaning going on and heads are about to roll.


26 posted on 03/08/2017 7:47:05 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: Helicondelta

AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO REMEMBERS THESE FISA COURT NEWS STORIES FIRST COMING OUT ABOUT 3 MONTHS AGO????

(I bet Trump knew back then, and fed them false info- like pretending they were worried about losing to hilLIARy so that she sat on her big fat ass)


27 posted on 03/08/2017 7:47:21 AM PST by Mr. K (Go Trump!)
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To: Helicondelta

First of all, the fact that someone produced a transcript of a conversation between Mike Flynn and Amb. Kiryalin - a conversation that occurred at Trump Tower - is prima facie evidence that an electronic intercept occurred. If it occurred without FISA authorization, it is a violation of law, whether conducted by the FBI, the NSA or the CIA.

Secondly, since FISA affidavits are always classified at least at the SECRET level (proceeds of electronic surveillance by the NSA or CIA is classified at even higher levels), the transcript is classified at that level and dissemination of the transcript without downgrade and/or sanitization is a violation of federal law.

Ergo, there should be a paper trail a mile long. So why aren’t ADM Rogers, Jim Comey and John Brennan in a dark room with a bright light in their face answering some very difficult questions...? Oh, and strap them up to a poly while you’re at it.


28 posted on 03/08/2017 7:47:32 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: dhs12345

Especially if he (wink wink) knew there was a warrant to wiretap the Russians, who just happened to talk to some of Trump’s associates (Kelly, Manafort, etc), then he can say what he did without lying. Clapper and also deny it as he did without lying and Comey can ask DOJ to deny it as he did.

No one is lying but no one is telling the complete truth either.

Too clever by half?


29 posted on 03/08/2017 7:48:09 AM PST by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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To: Helicondelta

There’s a lot to parse. And doing so, in a way that is clear to readers, is not easy when the subject matter is complicated and the information that reporters receive comes under strict terms of how it can be used.

Translation:
We LIE about EVERYTHING and Make crap up as we go, sometimes it is very difficult to keep ALL THE LIES STRAIGHT!


30 posted on 03/08/2017 7:48:24 AM PST by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: ifinnegan

I read the whole thing and my only thought was....what???


31 posted on 03/08/2017 7:48:37 AM PST by sheana
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To: Helicondelta

Democrats throw around the word “treason” for phone calls, or meetings by associates of President Trump. But Hillary’s actions while serving as Secretary of State perfectly fits the definition of treason. Hillary’s State Department approved giving one fifth of the U.S. uranium stock to Russia, at the same time top executives of the uranium company gave Hillary $500,000 for one speech and “donated” $145 million to her foundation.

Obama and his crony Attorney General did nothing to investigate these blatant crimes. It’s clearly time for President Trump and Congress to start investigations.

If phone calls to Russians merit an investigation, what is the significance of the Clinton Foundation accepting $145 million from the Russians, while Hillary is Secretary of State and being lobbied by these same people to sell off America’s valuable resources? Or Hillary’s campaign manager’s brother lobbying on behalf of Russia’s biggest bank while his brother runs her campaign for President?


32 posted on 03/08/2017 7:49:00 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: Helicondelta

Here is the thing NYT. You were all too happy to leave the innuendo out there when you broke these stories. You were all too happy to let the public believe that the Trump campaign was caught colluding with Russians based on info collected in an active investigation.

Trump flips it on those who tapped him. Why was a campaign monitored during an election?

Now you want to flip to: oh wait, the surveillance was accidentally obtained. Uh-huh.


33 posted on 03/08/2017 7:49:16 AM PST by FlipWilson
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To: Helicondelta

I just read the entire editorial “explanation” and had the same joyous feeling I get whenever I reflect on the fact that Donald J. Trump is now my president.

It’s hilarious, Obama didn’t order any of it himself, just like Nixon never knew anything it was all Haldeman and Ehrlichman. And they ignore the fact that when listening to overseas calls, the government is supposed to stop soon after an American comes on, but this was expanded to include the Americans. Then they ignore the illegal leaks.

BTW did their sainted Obama ever even criticize the leak of the classified info his administration was collecting?

And I love, love, love the part about how Obama merely let the agencies pass this all around so as to enhance their “investigation”.

Because of course it was so honorable to be working up until the last possible second, to destroy the incoming president. /s /s /s /s

Obama is a thug and the NYT are scum democrat operatives. Duh.


34 posted on 03/08/2017 7:49:47 AM PST by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: ifinnegan

35 posted on 03/08/2017 7:50:05 AM PST by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: New Jersey Realist

Obama ordered it. Lynch wouldn’t do anything of the sort without Obama knowing about it, and approving of it. So whether he “ordered” it directly or not, he knew of it and didn’t stop it.

Either way, Trump is correct


36 posted on 03/08/2017 7:50:45 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat ("Liberalism is a mental disorder" On FULL Display NOW! BOYCOTT Mexico nba NFL PepsiCO Kellogg's)
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To: Helicondelta

Obama requested surveillance from FISA and it was denied. Shortly thereafter, Lynch requested surveillance from FISA and it was approved. Only committed Leftists won’t be able to make that very short leap from the Obama request to the Lynch request. I REALLY DETEST LYING LEFTISTS.


37 posted on 03/08/2017 7:50:53 AM PST by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Paladin2

“Five Eyes” data swap.


38 posted on 03/08/2017 7:51:21 AM PST by ptsal
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To: dhs12345

Will no one rid me of the troublesome ........


39 posted on 03/08/2017 7:51:55 AM PST by conejo99
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To: Common Sense 101

below ZERO .... shareholders take a hit


40 posted on 03/08/2017 7:52:25 AM PST by ptsal
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