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Rep. .. Massie: GOP Care ..'stinking pile of garbage' ..by the 'insurance lobby,' ..'will fail'
Washington Examiner ^ | 03/07/2017 | PHILIP WEGMANN

Posted on 03/07/2017 7:06:17 PM PST by ForYourChildren

Thomas Massie does not mince words. For more than six years, Republicans have promised to repeal Obamacare and after reviewing the long-awaited replacement package for a few hours, the Kentucky libertarian wasn't impressed. Massie thinks "it's a stinking pile of garbage."

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(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: obamacare; rinocare
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To: Glad2bnuts

It is surprising, isn’t it ? No plan that doesn’t primarily benefit health care providers and insurance companies at tax payer expense.

The tax credit is nothing but a welfare scheme to benefit insurance companies. They say the goal is to give individuals who purchase insurance the same tax reduction that businesses get when they provide for their employees, but that would be done by making insurance tax deductible, not by refundable fixed-amount tax credits. The dirty little reason they want the tax credit is that DEDUCTIONS only help people who actually PAY INCOME TAXES while tax credits go to anyone, and they really want to subsidize people who don’t even pay income taxes to begin with.

Medicaid and Medicare between them mean the government is already paying for health care of 75 million Americans, and it is all done on a fee-for-services scheme that incentivizes health care providers to perform (or at least bill for) as many tests and procedures as they can. It also creates a lot of make-work for government and provider office employees to handle the billing and payments.

Tax credits to insurance companies do nothing to change that incentive for health care providers, and neither would tax deductions. Changing Medicare and Medicaid to the HMO model where the health care provider is paid a fixed amount per year and obligated to provide whatever care is necessary DOES disincentivize excess testing and procedures, yet that never seems to come up in these plans. Just be sure you have co-pays to discourage hypochondriacs from overusing.

The government could then offer enrollment into this combined Medicaid/Medicare plan to people regardless of age or poverty level if they have pre-existing conditions or high risks that make premiums from private insurers cost more than 5% of their income, by paying that 5% of income. That would remove the high-risk people from private insurers’ risk pools and lower the cost for everyone else. It would still cost tax payer money, but nowhere near as much as these tax credits would.


61 posted on 03/07/2017 10:53:57 PM PST by Kellis91789 (We hope for a bloodless revolution, but revolution is still the goal.)
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To: ForYourChildren

This is JebCare. KasichCare. EstablishmentCare. SwampCare. LobbyistCare. McConnellCare. RyanCare. PelosiCare. SchuemerCare. ObamaCareLite. GovernmentCare.

Take your pick.


62 posted on 03/08/2017 3:28:26 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: TTFlyer

maybe look again.

Trump has a tweet yesterday he expects some thing better to come (from Rand Paul) Trump also tweeted it’s time for negotiation.

walk but not get weary, run but not faint :)


63 posted on 03/08/2017 4:02:51 AM PST by b4me (If Jesus came to set us free, why are so many professed Believers still in chains?)
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To: The Antiyuppie
I would like a Republican to explain to me exactly how this will lower costs. For any people buying health care, that is.

UNLESS THE COST SIDE IS ADDRESSED THIS IS EVEN WORSE GARBAGE THAN OBAMACARE.

Republicans, still in the pockets of the medical-industrial complex. Very nice.

Cost caps like TRICARE on all drugs and services FIRST. Then let open market capitalism competition fight for the customers money, which eventually will get below the caps.

64 posted on 03/08/2017 4:03:01 AM PST by USCG SimTech
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To: dowcaet

The current bill won’t pass. Ryan and his weasel globalist buddies think they can ram this one through. No, it will be DOA if put to a full house vote today. Back to the drawing board folks.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The e-GOP wants to test to see whether those who voted for president Trump have gone back to sleep?

I hope they are all prepared to have new anal orrifices bored into their respective butts.

This is same old, same old, an Insurance lobby bill.Watch the Freedom Caucus join with the Dems to vote it down. Can’t say as I blame them much.


65 posted on 03/08/2017 4:28:37 AM PST by Candor7 ((Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: ForYourChildren

Good to see the GOPe folks taking so much flak - they want to maintain federal controls and can’t seem to figure out that is where 99.999% of the problems have come from.


66 posted on 03/08/2017 4:40:55 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: txhurl

If you notice the timestamps, the comment pressuring Paul came later.


67 posted on 03/08/2017 7:00:22 AM PST by MyDogAteMyBallot
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To: Kit cat

That’s the only hope to counter Priebus/Ryan


68 posted on 03/08/2017 7:02:46 AM PST by MyDogAteMyBallot
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