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What they're all missing is [the possibility that] there was no valid FISA warrant

Posted on 03/06/2017 2:20:05 PM PST by Jim Robinson

It's obviously not the first crime committed by the lawless Obama administration, er, democrat crime family. Obama, Bill Clinton, Hillary, Lynch, Holder, Clapper, Comey, Lerner, et al, are all lawless criminals.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: wiretapping
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To: Bratch

My thoughts as well.

Yep.

Conservative Treehouse believes Rogers to be one of the IC “White Hats”.


61 posted on 03/06/2017 2:52:10 PM PST by Dacula (President and CEO at Being Awesome)
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To: abigkahuna

Can a fake FISA order be passed off like a BC or selective service doc? How many would have to lie for the admin for that? They have shown over the last 8 years there is NOTHING sacred that can’t be lied about.


62 posted on 03/06/2017 2:52:33 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Jim Robinson

Agreed...


63 posted on 03/06/2017 2:53:59 PM PST by caver (Trump: Home of the Winner)
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To: drewh
its always the coverup, never the actual actions that get the dc critters in trouble..

No "coverup" would have been necessary - HAD MRS CLINTON WON THE ELECTION AS PROMISED!!!

That sick little bastard Obama was all set to move to Rancho Mirage and golf all day in the sun. Instead, what does he do? . . he stays in DC just a few short blocks from all the agencies he needs to cover his bony ass with to try and make sure this never comes out.

When this gets sorted out - its going to be freaking nuclear

64 posted on 03/06/2017 2:55:17 PM PST by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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To: abigkahuna

I am inclined to agree with you.

They were already doing what they were asking for in the FISA warrant. They just needed cover. When it got shot down, and they weren’t finding what they thought, and couldn’t PLANT anything without it being noticed, they went back to the FISA court to cover their tracks again.

I have no doubt that they were looking to PLANT evidence, not find any. Since the polls were going their way, they thought they had it in the bag, and there was no reason to plant evidence.


65 posted on 03/06/2017 2:55:31 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Yaelle
The NSA is under the military umbrella. No warrant is necessary. Obama just needed to ask for info on Trump, and the NSA obeys.

This is according to Judge Napolitano on Varney this morning. I will ping you if it shows up on youtube.

66 posted on 03/06/2017 2:55:37 PM PST by Chgogal (I will NOT submit, therefore, Jihadists hate me.)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall
The President can order a FISA tap even without a warrant, so long as it’s ostensibly against a foreigner, which of course they would claim it was (the Russians).

The Russian Ambassador who met with Sessions is a MOLE for the DEMS. He provided the information (and/or was wired) to the DEMS.

67 posted on 03/06/2017 2:55:48 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: atc23

That was just it about Watergate, there was no way that Nixon was going to lose to McGovern, so why did they have to break-in in the first place?


68 posted on 03/06/2017 2:57:07 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Grampa Dave

There is no comparison between Nixon & Obama. Nixon was a Saint compared to the criminal Obama.


69 posted on 03/06/2017 2:57:34 PM PST by caver (Trump: Home of the Winner)
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To: Ouderkirk

The other option to consider is that Foreign Intelligence monitored Trump for our Alphabets here. Its done all the time cause our laws are restrictive. We share data, they share data. It would be very hard to track that down then I think.


70 posted on 03/06/2017 2:58:12 PM PST by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: TXSearcher
# 34 Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order The spinners never said he didn't AUTHORIZE it, they all stated he didn't ORDER it. Clintonspeak 2.0
71 posted on 03/06/2017 2:59:11 PM PST by heterosupremacist (Domine Iesu Christe, Filius Dei, miserere me peccatorem!)
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To: Jim Robinson
It's likely Trump, his family and anyone close to the campaign have had full on surveillance since Trump and Melania came down the escalator on June 17, 2015, and probably before. If there were no FISA requests, it just compounds the felonies and charges.

A Grand Jury needs to be instituted ASAP. This is a constitutional crisis. I hope Sessions gets on this immediately. American Patriots need to follow this closely and follow up with our Senators and Representatives.

A former NSA guy was just on Hannity and said the NSA and the whole Intelligence Community was basically at the behest of Obama and monitors every phone call, email, you name it on every American.

We knew this was going to happen when the Patriot Act was passed.

The NSA guy also said he knew a former STASI guy and he said our system would have been a dream system for the STASI. Here it was just waiting for a guy like Obama.

72 posted on 03/06/2017 2:59:20 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: abigkahuna

I agree with you. The 1st was to get to Trump. But Bammy is superior to our Constitution. The second was their cover up. They were getting nervous.

From what I understand the 1st FISA was after Trump and outside their jurisdiction. The 2nd was the Soviet stuff that is their jurisdiction.

But once Flynn, an American citizen, showed up in this stuff they needed a normal court warrant. They didn’t do it. A felony. THEN they leaked it. Another felony!

I pray this blows wide open.


73 posted on 03/06/2017 3:00:05 PM PST by lizma2
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To: Jim Robinson

Since day 1 I have said the fact they are concerned about a “Legal” intrusion is a frigen joke.


74 posted on 03/06/2017 3:00:11 PM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: UCANSEE2

I believe Obama set that meet up ?
How convenient.


75 posted on 03/06/2017 3:02:22 PM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: Chgogal

Thanks. It the experts on Hannity assured that as it stands, even with warrants, serious felonies have been committed by high order people in the Obama admin, and there should be a special prosecutor asap and a grand jury drawn. There will be perp walks and jail time. Both those guys agreed on that. One said that Obama would not be going down but that “history would take care of him.” Gave me hope.


76 posted on 03/06/2017 3:02:39 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: drewh

work not covered by a warrant is different from the lack of existence of a valid warrant.

apples and oranges.


77 posted on 03/06/2017 3:04:09 PM PST by SteveH
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To: Godebert

Frankly, I don’t think he was a citizen at all. I am betting he traveled to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport. If Trump could get all those sealed records opened I think we would find that really and officially we had a foreign national illegally resident in the USA as US President for 8 years.


78 posted on 03/06/2017 3:04:19 PM PST by arthurus (.)
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To: KeyLargo

That will be resisted to the max and whatever deletion and shredding is possible will be done.


79 posted on 03/06/2017 3:06:25 PM PST by arthurus (.)
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To: dfwgator

There was no way Clinton was going to lose to Trump either.


80 posted on 03/06/2017 3:06:26 PM PST by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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