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Was it fake news then? Or is it fake news now?
1 posted on 03/05/2017 4:31:30 PM PST by Ray76
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To: Ray76

Why post this now?


2 posted on 03/05/2017 4:34:24 PM PST by davidb56
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To: Ray76

We’ll see, NYT, we’ll see.

But, given your record, my bet is on fake news.

Sucks being a lowly journalist, doesn’t it?

Heck, you guys are almost as dumb as politicians.


3 posted on 03/05/2017 4:34:59 PM PST by Da Coyote
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Yesterday’s NY Times: Trump, Offering No Evidence, Says Obama Tapped His Phones - https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/04/us/politics/trump-obama-tap-phones.html


4 posted on 03/05/2017 4:35:19 PM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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The NY Slimes is doubling down. They’re fully committed to bringing down President Trump and there’s no backing away from it now for them and the rest of their globalist buddies.


5 posted on 03/05/2017 4:36:24 PM PST by dowcaet
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BTT!


9 posted on 03/05/2017 4:37:42 PM PST by papertyger (The semantics define how we think.)
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Most excellent find.


10 posted on 03/05/2017 4:38:33 PM PST by NoLibZone (He's racist,homophobic,misogynist and has a concealed carry permit- God how I adore that man!)
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fake again — it was fake 6 weeks ago when it was published. These people are going down hard. BOOOOM!!


13 posted on 03/05/2017 4:40:53 PM PST by WENDLE (Watch this on John McCain. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO0mHEJyC3Y)
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they did report on it but this story does not state Trump Tower


14 posted on 03/05/2017 4:42:12 PM PST by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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Another thing that concerns me ........

I hope the FBI, CIA, NSA, and Treasury Dept. financial crimes unit aren’t totally consumed by Russia. This is so 1970s.

Hopefully they’re sort of watching over Saudi Arabia, Iran, Yemen, Iraq, Somalia, etc. This is where the real terror threats come from.

My guess is that they couldn’t do much investigation of muzzie nations because it would have offended the muzzie brotherhood administration.


18 posted on 03/05/2017 4:48:22 PM PST by boycott
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One official said intelligence reports based on some of the wiretapped communications had been provided to the White House.

NY Times thought they were being smart back then, and now it seems it is going to hurt their liberal, bias cause.


19 posted on 03/05/2017 4:51:30 PM PST by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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The difference between then and now, as can be seen from the reactions then vs now, is the target of the surveillance.

The NYT article doesn’t mention that a server in Trump Tower was a target of the investigation.

Everybody knows the overseas communications are monitored, so citing a wiretap in a story about possible crimes w/foreign banks doesn’t raise any eyebrows, as far as wiretapping goes.

The excitement now is that it was a Trump server, where they first went to normal court, and only went to FISA upon failure, since the standard there was lower.

A grander and wider scope corruption than the earlier story.


21 posted on 03/05/2017 5:00:33 PM PST by fruser1
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The F.B.I. is leading the investigations, aided by the National Security Agency, the C.I.A. and the Treasury Department’s financial crimes unit.

This says that these agency are involved.

22 posted on 03/05/2017 5:09:04 PM PST by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them.)
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23 posted on 03/05/2017 5:10:36 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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Remember:

Obama wiretapped the parents of Fox News’s James Rosen — with no legal authority that I know of.

He illegally used the IRS to punish political opponents.

He illegally used an executive order to give amnesty to “Dreamers” — a power even he admitted he didn’t have.

He and Eric Holder intervened ion the ongoing case against the New Black panthers to end the prosecution — after the Bush Administration had essentially gotten them convicted.

So why wouldn’t hve wiretap Trump, with or without a warrant?


27 posted on 03/05/2017 7:58:07 PM PST by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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F.B.I. Chief Pushes
For Justice Dept.
To Refute Trump

White House Rallies Behind Unproven
Claim of Obama Tapping Phones

This is the NYT's headline far right above the fold today, 3/6/2017.

Thank you for posting. According to others, this is already being scrubbed from the interwebs. Apparently the Jan 19, 2017 story is down the memory hole.

30 posted on 03/06/2017 5:20:31 AM PST by Oratam
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Stories contradicting this did not refer to the previous story or give a retraction.

Being a liberal means you never have to say “I’m sorry and I was wrong.”


31 posted on 03/06/2017 2:56:10 PM PST by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a slasher, and find one.... what's your plan?)
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Let me guess.... on January 8'th, a Russian guest checked out of the Trump hotel in Panama City, Panama.

During the evening hours of January 8'th, the hotel's billing system ran the day's credit card charges through... in the process it communicated with the issuing banks of each credit card to process payments.

On January 10'th, an NSA analyst saw the communication between the Trump hotel's computer and the Moscow bank that issued the credit card to the Russian businessman who had been traveling in Panama.

On January 11'th... White House staff review the report and say "Aha!!!! We got him! Trump organization computers talk to Russian banks!. Alert the media!"

32 posted on 03/06/2017 3:03:35 PM PST by Cementjungle
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