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Trump Signs Bills Supporting Women Entrepreneurs and Women in STEM Fields
CNS ^ | February 28, 2017 | Melanie Arter

Posted on 02/28/2017 3:35:46 PM PST by bobsunshine

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To: Zathras

We’re going to pay a fortune in STEM education so these women can proudly train their H1-B replacements?

I can’t recommend to the kid across the street that he should study Engineering if there are no long term employment prospects.


21 posted on 02/28/2017 4:19:21 PM PST by bobcat62
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To: Socon-Econ

How are men victims?


22 posted on 02/28/2017 4:21:17 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes; All

Careful, Donald. America doesn’t need YET ANOTHER law protecting and promoting women based on the premise that they’re a victims.


I remember the old rant about hiring women and training them to a job, only to have them get married, have kids, and drop out of the work force.

Politically correct, but appears to have some semblance to reality.

Coming from a STEM background in my career, I can tell you that managers desperately looked for qualified females in technological fields.

When they found them, they were snapped up.

I remember when when applying for an engineering job, and they would not even consider me, but the snapped up every female applicant that could be justified at all.


23 posted on 02/28/2017 4:23:16 PM PST by marktwain (We wanted to tell our side of the story. We hope by us telling our story...)
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To: bobsunshine
Currently, only one in four women who gets a STEM degree is working in a STEM job – which is not fair...

What percentage of men who get STEM degrees are working in STEM jobs?

24 posted on 02/28/2017 4:25:23 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: poinq

I was working on my Chemical Engineering degree, but changed to Computer Science after a summer internships. The Chem E’s had to work outside in the heat. Software engineers work inside with AC. I got very sick after going to a plant in the heat.


25 posted on 02/28/2017 4:25:38 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: SomeCallMeTim

My son was pursuing a degree in computers and math. He had ONE female student in his classes.


26 posted on 02/28/2017 4:26:44 PM PST by petitfour (Americans need to repent.)
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To: poinq
When I went through, half of my engineering class picked up awesome jobs in diverse non engineering fields. Ranging from corporate management to Wall Street financial services and investment banking

Turns out a good STEM (hate that term) degree is kind of a gold standard that validates the owner as a high quality, intelligent, hard working individual with a first class education - not a given in other degrees in today's world of grade inflation and frivolous college degrees that are little more than political Indoctrination

STEM degrees are the kind of quality grads that you can train to do most any job

In corporate America, quality highly skilled women are always in high demand and the women with STEM degrees have proven to be a pool of exceptionally capable job candidates who get snapped up by companies for pretty much any demanding and high responsibility job position, technical or not

Many guys who go engineering are gear heads who want to work in hard core engineering jobs, some women-not so much. These women are lured into very good , high paying jobs with a more non tech career path

It's not that there are limited career paths for women with STEM degrees.in fact it's the exact opposite. Women with STEM degrees, especially engineering degrees, have proven so capable and successful that companies compete to recruit them into top level non STEM career paths

27 posted on 02/28/2017 4:27:23 PM PST by rdcbn (.... when Poets buy guns, tourist season is over ...)
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To: TalonDJ

Also people working in STEM typically put in lots of hours. If you both work bin STEM you realize that it’s better for one to put in lots of hours and thrive than two at risk of being laid off.

My hubby and I met at work as software engineers.


28 posted on 02/28/2017 4:28:41 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: bobsunshine

All the men should wear black suits tonight to show their satisfaction.


29 posted on 02/28/2017 4:29:35 PM PST by kempster
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To: bobsunshine

is this for biological women only, or do we have to anticipate a bunch of men pretending to be women will be out to grab the program advantages away from biological women (like they are currently doing in sports)?


30 posted on 02/28/2017 4:33:43 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: BoomerBabe

My kids’ teachers would get mad at me for explaining math above their grade level. My younger girls really got the benefit because I would explain my son’s homework to them.

My girls 1st grade teacher asked me to stop teaching them about negative numbers.

I ignored them. My girls caught on to it quickly.

One of my girls is going to be a math major.

Only one of my kids going into the STEM field.


31 posted on 02/28/2017 4:34:31 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: poinq

Speaking in generalities, women are more social beings than men. Being in a lab, or other “dry” job, just doesn’t do it for them. Being a doctor you interact with patients and their families.


32 posted on 02/28/2017 4:35:55 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: bobsunshine

I wonder how much this hare brained scheme is gonna cost us.


33 posted on 02/28/2017 4:44:48 PM PST by bankwalker (groupthink is dangerous ...)
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To: bobsunshine

Affirmative action is not equality.


34 posted on 02/28/2017 4:50:55 PM PST by wastedyears (Prophecy of sky Gods, the sun and moon)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Men are victims because: (1) it is legal to discriminate against them; and (2)there are legitimate reasons why the sexes predominate in certain occupations, stay-home motherhood being one of them.


35 posted on 02/28/2017 5:36:31 PM PST by Socon-Econ
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To: petitfour
My son was pursuing a degree in computers and math. He had ONE female student in his classes.

What school? That's definitely NOT the norm nationwide.

For the past 15 years, I have given an annual lecture to senior Chemical Engineer classes at Kentucky. 15 years ago, it was mostly males. Over the years, it has shifted to more and more female. The past 2 years, it's been 2:1 female. The Dean of Engineering told me the same was true on all schools except Mechanical and COmputer.

The business schools are also > 2:1 female.

Take a look at the national data... it's a real crisis.

36 posted on 02/28/2017 6:08:54 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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To: Socon-Econ

I do not personally know any women who can afford to stay home. I know I couldn’t.

As for men being discriminated against, I think that is greatly exaggerated. What examples do you have?

http://www.deptofnumbers.com/unemployment/demographics/


37 posted on 02/28/2017 7:00:46 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: SomeCallMeTim

While women make up 47 percent of the US work force, they represent only 26 percent of people who work in STEM (science, technology, engineering, or math). Further, only 12 percent of female college students will graduate with a bachelor’s degree in science, and just 3 percent will continue to work in a STEM field 10 years after graduation.

https://www.collegeraptor.com/blog/higher-education/7-organizations-working-to-promote-women-in-stem/


38 posted on 02/28/2017 7:07:25 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012
I do not personally know any women who can afford to stay home. I know I couldn’t.

There are examples aplenty. My wife is one. There are MANY just in on our street.

39 posted on 03/01/2017 5:43:42 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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To: ilovesarah2012

That’s an interesting website. I will have to spend a little time looking at it. I notice, they don’t include UK for Chemical Engineering?

I have BS ChE degree, work in a STEM position, and interview on campus at several schools (Including UK,OSU, Louisville and UT Austin). What I am SEEING certainly does NOT match the statistics shown on that site.

These statistics do:
https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=372

57% of Fall enrollment at all Universities are female. That’s 57-43. And the discrepancy is growing.

I have no doubt that the male numbers are higher in STEM programs. But, I KNOW, from experience, that women are doing extremely well in Chemical Engineering.

I do not believe this kind of difference is sustainable, in the long term. But, I see almost nobody saying, or doing anything about it. Rather, I continue to see programs designed to further support women.


40 posted on 03/01/2017 5:51:32 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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