Posted on 02/27/2017 7:52:23 AM PST by Ciaphas Cain
For some 15 years, airport security has become steadily more invasive. There are ever more checkpoints, ever more requests for documents as you make your way from the airport entrance to the airplane. Passengers adapt to the new changes as they come. But my latest flight to Mexico, originating in Atlanta, presented all passengers with something I had never seen before.
We had already been through boarding pass checks, passport checks, scanners, and pat downs. At the gate, each passenger had already had their tickets scanned and we were all walking on the jet bridge to board. It’s at this point that most people assume that it is all done: finally we can enjoy some sense of normalcy.
This time was different. Halfway down the jetbridge, there was a new layer of security. Two US Marshals, heavily armed and dressed in dystopian-style black regalia, stood next to an upright machine with a glowing green eye. Every passenger, one by one, was told to step on a mat and look into the green scanner. It was scanning our eyes and matching that scan with the passport, which was also scanned (yet again). Like everyone else, I complied. What was my choice? I guess I could have turned back at the point, decline to take the flight I had paid for, but it would be unclear what would then happen. After standing there for perhaps 8 seconds, the machine gave the go signal and I boarded.
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Good afternoon.
Would you voluntarily give the federal government a DNA sample?
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I don’t expect anything good to happen. Much like the sudafed thing, hasn’t slowed down meth use or consumption, but hey it’s a lot easier to arrest people now.
The next time a terror attack brings down an airliner don't be the guy that blames the "govt" for not doing enough.
Yes. And I have been finger printed many times to get security clearances also.
The Patriot Act is an anathema to America....
Exactly. It is Fake News and just an out right lie
Biometric can mean almost anything most likely fingerprints
The story might be fake, but your reaction is not fake, and is disgusting. Yeah let’s trust the courts, God knows they’ve never gotten one wrong.
Oh I’ll blame the government for not doing anything, because these things are doing NOTHING to stop terrorism. 9-11 didn’t happen because of a lack of airport security, it happened because a lazy government couldn’t be bothered to deport people from a terrorist backing country (which they still won’t admit) with expired visas. These things are treating American like criminals for the sole purpose of having excuses to arrest them. Sudafed ID check hasn’t slowed meth production, but it does give them another DB to check if they find somebody inconvenient.
In general terrorists have field day whenever they want to strike. But they are not able to attack commercial air liners. Is this luck or better security since 9-11? How would you know or tell? I am probably willing to assume more risk when I fly than the average person. But I think most people are against the inconvenience of airport security as opposed to being against the goal itself. Am I wrong?
Uh yeh, we do know. the DHS has even admitted that terrorists are not likely to try to hijack a plane again because they know the passengers will immediately attack them. I would step over you to get to them if I was on the plane. I took the red pill.
I don’t give a ratz azz if a few illegals escape back to Mexico if it means I’m not terrorized at the airport by the American Stazi. I don’t care if a few get in the country either. That’s what we have ICE for.
At the same time, how many people on this thread who are saying they'll never fly again because of this have casually submitted to numerous NICS checks? I'm guessing all of them.
One last thing -- the article describes the Marshals as "heavily and and dressed in dystopian-style black uniforms." I've just about had it with such inanity. Even on FR, I almost constantly see these images with a modern SWAT team juxtaposed against Adam-12 or Barney Fife with the caption "when did this become that?" I don't know, maybe with the emergence of international terrorism, mass transit, and rampant gang activity? Effective small arms and body armor and comfortable uniforms does not a police state make. When you yourself are willing to face down terrorists and MS13 members while wearing a shirt and tie and brandishing a compact revolver, let me know.
Yeh I just love the argument that even if it saves one life its worth evertybody totally losing their freedom. Its not worth it.
I’d like to see this implemented in every welfare office to stop people collecting benefits under multiple IDs. The usual suspects would scream, though.
It may or may not be connected to the claims in the article.
Here are the links
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2015/09/15/executive-order-using-behavioral-science-insights-better-serve-american
Obama Issues Executive Order for Government Use of Behavioral Data
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/15/obama-issues-executive-order-government-use-behavioral-data/
A new executive order from President Obama directs all government agencies to use psychological science and data to help connect more Americans to government programs.
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The program, however, will likely lead more government agencies to using and storing data from randomized research trials on everyday Americans to understand their behavior.
Obama’s executive order codifies his government experiment into law, allowing every agency to target individuals for greater service and success.
Being ready to take down an ongoing terrorist attack inside an aircraft cabin at altitude has nothing to do with my stance on airport and travel security procedures. They are not related. The purpose of a passport is to identify the user. If there is a convenient fast way to detect fraud when crossing international borders then that is good thing. I think most are mad about the inconvenience more so than the security measure itself.
They’re totally able to attack commercial airliners, you’re just not paying attention.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_hijackings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_airliner_bombing_attacks
Smart people are against POINTLESS inconvenience. If we REALLY wanted secure air travel we’d go Israeli with our security. But we don’t want that, too inconvenient, we want just enough inconvenience to feel safe without the bother of real security. And some of us recognize that many of these efforts exist solely to gather unrelated evidence and arrest people for unrelated crimes later. Like magnetic strips in your money, they insist it’s anti-counter fitting, but bring $11,000 in cash through an airport metal detector and you’ll find out what the strip (and the metal detector for that matter) are really for.
Would you fly on an airline that advertised no security at all? They made special arrangements with the US govt so they could by pass all security measure and let the passengers and crew assume all risk form terrorism? With quick boarding times and no waiting they would make a lot of money right?
It’s not the airlines doing it, it’s the government, and the government won’t give up all that information for any airline.
If you think Sudafed is a problem, try getting needed opioids. May wife had back surgery and could not tolerate the surgical pain with the drugs that had been prescribed for take home. So we contacted her surgeon and I had to make a trip to the hospital to get one of his compatriots ( who had to wait to sign the prescription for stronger medication before going into surgery himself). Then the battle began at the pharmacy. They told me that they would have to contact the doctor and would have to get back to me in the morning ( it was 10 p.m.). I told the pharmacist he had 30 minutes to fill the prescription then there would be a different kind of “contact” between the two of us. The problem is with all the Schedule A narcotics regulations. They aren’t laws, they are simply bureaucratic regulations promulgated by agencies that have nothing to do with patients who are seeking pain relief. It’s like everything government does today. Gun control that controls decent people, but doesn’t do anything about the real problem is a shining example of how a basic Constitutional Freedom is being trampled. Where “regulations” trump the law. And with drugs, it’s “on steroids.”
Easy solution - drive.
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