Posted on 02/21/2017 9:06:30 AM PST by T-Bird45
SNIP to the meat:
The President routinely describes reporting he dislikes as FAKE NEWS. The Administration calls the press the opposition party, ridicules news organizations it doesnt like as business failures, and calls for journalists to be fired. Mr. Trump has called for rewriting libel laws in order to more easily sue the press.
This isnt unprecedented in U.S. history, though you might have to go back to the Administration of John Adams to see something quite like it. And so far the rhetorical salvos havent been matched by legal or regulatory action. Maybe they never will be.
But the question of what Mr. Trump might yet do by political methods against the media matters a great deal less than what he is attempting to do by ideological and philosophical methods.
Ideologically, the president is trying to depose so-called mainstream media in favor of the media he likes Breitbart News and the rest. Another way of making this point is to say that hes trying to substitute news for propaganda, information for boosterism.
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(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...
Dear Mr Stephens,
It is not so much President Trump, holding this position, it is we, those darn deplorables. I do think you understand it however. the truth of it creeps into your writing even if it is meant as hyperbole. You write, “... is to say that hes trying to substitute news for propaganda, information for boosterism.” and that is indeed what we would do.
The media had bias, as many groups do, but became a leftist propaganda machine. The broadcast and written journalist was unfailingly into leftist boosterism and destruction of our county. We want it stopped and will support our President.
Thanks for the exchange,
KC Burke
More like substituting propaganda for news and past boosterism for information.
“The President routinely describes reporting he dislikes as FAKE NEWS.”
SLIME MAGAZINE does it again!
No, no, no!
It’s NOT that Trump calls news he dislikes as FAKE NEWS. Rather, it’s DISHONEST news Trump calls FAKE news.
When will these so-called journalists get it?
Did they even listen to Trump’s great speech last week when he gave the media a full dressing down?
He said specifically that he doesn’t mind news that he disagrees with but he does mind dishonesty in reporting. End of story.
GO back to the drawing board, SLIME MAG!!!!
“When will these so-called journalists get it?”
It’s almost like they do it on purpose.
Like when they repeatedly say we want to deport legal immigrants when they no full well we mean illegal criminal immigrants.
The author of the article eschews the tenets of responsible journalism. What he forgets is that as long as humans have been walking the face of this Earth, lying has been as fundamental to our existence as breathing air.
We can speak of high standards, but it’s in the following of those standards that well-meant axioms sound like fantasies.
Another point.
The same author was mocking President Trump, going so far to say that he prefers Breitbart to mainstream media.
Wrong.
Donald Trump and those of us who voted for him just want a fair, unbiased level of reporting. Better said, we want the adolescent malcontents in the media to stop prostituting their profession in the furtherance of their social and political agenda.
Thanks for reminding of that Rush segment. I happened to be driving and listening at that time so I think he expressed very well the central theme here. I’d add to that the dichotomy/bifurcation that occurred in times past between “reporter” and “journalist” has bearing on this discussion, too. The reporter was all about the 5Ws and an H while the journalist merely used those as tools to allow themselves to tell us what the story “really means” with their “news analysis” and “investigative reporting.” Thus, we get exploding pickups due to planted fireworks and time-travelling typewriters.
President Trump does not “attack” the media, he COUNTER-attacks the Media.
Bullies are always shocked when their victims get fed up and punch them in the mouth....same with the Media as they have been used to Conservatives bending over and simply taking it.
Hillary created the term “fake news”.
She owns it now.
Oh are the fragile little snowflakes still whining that Trump is telling the truth about their grotesque incompetence as “Journalists”?
“Mere stupidity” of whom? Of the MEDIA? Yes. The MEDIA is
doubling down on stupidity.
President Donald J. Trump, on the other hand, is BRILLIANT!
- See my tagline.
Bret Stephens is a GOPe Neo-Con.
“But the question of what Mr. Trump might yet do by political methods against the media matters....””
Love the Freudian slip on “media matters...” Trump should call out David Brock and his minions as the inventors of fake news. Has he trademarked the term for his 2020 reelection bid?
Sounds good to me. I wonder if Time is too stupid to realize what they said here.
In 2016 speaking to CNNs Fareed Zakaria Sunday afternoon, Wall Street Journals Bret Stephens said that it was important for Donald Trump to lose the general election so utterly that the Republican party and its voters learn their lesson and never nominate someone like him ever again.
Nuff said.
Yup - that’s some real fair, objective, and unbiased journalism right there! Thanks for that. Would you happen to have a link handy?
The Fifth (and there is some humor there) Estate needs to grow some skin.
No, I won’t dismiss them at all. Because they’re valid.
What’s stupid is the media establishment, which believes it can continue to tell the same old lies and keept getting away with them.
They did this with Reagan too. One minute he was sleeping and drooling, but the next he was scheming to blow up the world, starve the homeless, and give AIDS to people. Depended on what day it was with the press.
Bret Stephens is the stupid one. He doesn’t get it, still can’t get it into his thick, moronic head, that the media are corrupt, biased, and often incompetent. In five minutes of Google time, amateurs like us can find rebuttals to their false or distorted claims, and rebuttals to their “fact-checking.” We can catch errors that their own copy editors don’t catch.
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