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3 posted on 02/19/2017 6:11:54 PM PST by drewh
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To: drewh

Good Lord!!!

BTW, what the #### are we doing tied with Bolivia?!?!


4 posted on 02/19/2017 6:13:42 PM PST by dp0622 (The only thing an upper cbrust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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I don't doubt that rapes increased in Sweden with the increase in the number of migrants, but I was somewhat skeptical that Sweden -- made up mostly of mild-mannered Swedes -- would be leading the world in any kind of comparison of rape stats, or even be worse than the United States. After all, the vast majority of Swedes still aren't migrants.

16 posted on 02/19/2017 8:12:59 PM PST by GJones2 (Sweden, migrants, and UNODC national crime stats)
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I went to the UNODC site (https://data.unodc.org/) and tried to confirm the chart rankings. After a quick look, I found a way of generating pdf and Exel reports for countries either by region or listed all together. I generated a pdf file of all countries together for the category rape. The result was a list of totals arranged by country alphabetically, so to compare how bad things are in different countries, you have to do your own calculation of rapes as a percentage of population (obviously you can’t use simple totals when comparing large and small countries).

The chart says 2013, so I compared the reported rapes in the US for that year (113,695 according to UNODC for a Wikipedia population estimate of 324,552,000) with the reported rapes for Sweden (5,634 according to UNODC for a Wikipedia population estimate of 10,005,600).

If I calculated correctly, that gives 0.035% (rounded off to three decimal places) for the United States and 0.056% for Sweden. That’s a much higher rate for Sweden. So even according to Sweden’s own police reports sent to the UN in 2013, things are really bad there.


17 posted on 02/19/2017 8:16:51 PM PST by GJones2 (Sweden, migrants, and UNODC national crime stats)
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Not that Sweden is necessarily the worst in the world. Some countries don’t fully report such stats. I noticed that the chart leaves out some countries that I’ve seen ranked very high previously.

For instance, in the UNODC stats I see no sign of South Africa, which had ranked very high in previous reports that I’d seen. Apparently it has quit reporting. According to Wikipedia, though, “The country has one of the highest rates of rape in the world, with some 65,000 rapes and other sexual assaults reported for the year ending in March 2012, or 127.6 per 100,000 people in the country.” In percentage that would come out to be 0.128%, compared with 0.056% for Sweden and 0.035% for the United States.

“One in three of the 4,000 women questioned by the Community of Information, Empowerment and Transparency said they had been raped in the past year.[211] More than 25% of South African men questioned in a survey admitted [that’s admitted!] to raping someone; of those, nearly half said they had raped more than one person, according to a new study conducted by the Medical Research Council (MRC).”

Though stats in this area aren’t very reliable, it seems obvious that crime rates vary greatly from place to place. Good individuals may come from anywhere, of course, but it would be naive for countries to assume that — as a group — the place of origin of immigrants makes no difference.


18 posted on 02/19/2017 8:18:30 PM PST by GJones2 (Sweden, migrants, and UNODC national crime stats)
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Looking back, I see that your chart label says 2012. I got “2013” from the file name at the bottom “CTS2013_SexualViolence.xls”. The US number for rapes was much lower for 2012 (85,141) while Sweden was slightly higher (5,949), so in my calculation Sweden would have come out even worse for that year. For the last year listed at UNODC (2014), Sweden was considerably higher (6,294) than for 2013.


21 posted on 02/19/2017 9:00:00 PM PST by GJones2 (Sweden, migrants, and UNODC national crime stats)
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To: drewh

Those stats are from 2012. Pretty meaningless by now, I’d bet (and in a bad way). (And I wonder why South Africa isn’t listed - they must be in the triple digits.)


25 posted on 02/20/2017 3:38:26 AM PST by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building)
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