Posted on 02/16/2017 3:14:39 PM PST by 198ml
In yet another case where an LGBT non-discrimination order trumped First Amendment rights, the Washington Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that conscience rights dont matter when it comes to running a business.
In the case of Ingersoll v. Arlenes Flowers in which a gay client sued Baronelle Stutzman, a Christian floral artist who refused to participate in his same-sex wedding the Evergreen States high court ruled that Stutzmans First Amendment rights to freedom and expression should be subjugated to the LGBT agenda.
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It's not like the religious doctrine taught by someone's priest has any impact upon their temporal judgement...
Are you concerned that Neil Gorsuch belongs to a far-left church?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3523436/posts
...errr, does it?/s
Amen to that.
I look forward to that deafening roar.
Perhaps it’s time for America to step past “religiously moral” to actual 24K Christian.
The kinds of conflicts that result will look a lot different in such an era. Challenges followed, not by secular checks and balances, but by salvations.
But thanks for alerting us to this question.
Not always does formal churching equate to method of governing. Donald Trump would be a lot more lukewarm, as well as an enemy of Israel, if this were the case.
We need to see how the person actually thinks. Some people stick with legacy churches long after they have gotten very weak and off course for a multitude of reasons, including sentimental.
>>Some people stick with legacy churches
Does not appear to be the case.
His mother lived/died in Aurora.
“Gorsuch, a Denver native”
http://www.denverpost.com/2016/12/11/neil-gorsuch-trump-scotus-list/
Legacy can embrace denomination.
Also according to Google, Aurora and Denver are a 27 minute trip apart (and that’s between what Google considers to be the centers of the areas). I traveled almost that far to go to a church for years.
You might look for things that are actually significant, not feeble attempts to make noise.
I grew up in Denver. Aurora is part of Denver’s urban sprawl. Boulder was 45 minutes from my house on Saturday AM when I used to drive there to climb. It’s NOT part of Denver.
There are plenty of congregations within driving distance that don’t have pastors who embrace the homosexual perversion of marriage.
He didn’t grow up in Boulder - or that denomination.
He was a Catholic.
http://duckduckgo.com/?q=Gorsuch+Catholic
“Bakers, florist and photographers make their living on weddings and romance.”
Ever heard of landscape and news photography? Restaurant-bakeries? As for florist, I’ll give you that one but the wedding industry is by no means the only career option for photographers and bakers.
>>landscape and news photography?
Show us the plethora of landscape and news photographers making $3000+ per gig.
“Show us the plethora of landscape and news photographers making $3000+ per gig.”
I don’t care about salary. My point is that if you have a passion for these things, you can fulfill it without involving yourself in the wedding business.
>>I dont care about salary
You’re pulling your opinion out of your arse.
I know photographers and florists for whom weddings are a significant portion of the income required to support their family.
None of them support the homosexual perversion of marriage.
“Youre pulling your opinion out of your arse.”
What I’m saying is that if I lived in a state like Washington, New York, or somewhere where this would be a concern, I wouldn’t look into a career in the wedding industry lest I suffer the same fate as Stutzman. If I had a passion for photography, I’d pick another career but would still do it on the side.
I don’t agree with the idea of public accommodation laws at all. In fact I think the Civil Rights Act got it wrong. But until those laws are changed or overruled, there’s not much Christians can do except to realize that we’re ineligible for certain professions.
Yeah, that’s real easy to say from your mom’s basement.
Leme know how that works when you’re an adult who has a mortgage, car payments, insurance, mouths to feed. Etc - and weddings have been part of your established business income for years.
>>If I had a passion for photography
It’s not about “passion” super genius - it’s about reality and having your livelihood attacked by someone’s preference for fagottry that was “just in the privacy of their bedroom”.
“Its not about ‘passion’ super genius - its about reality and having your livelihood attacked by someones preference for fagottry that was ‘just in the privacy of their bedroom’.”
I’m saying pick a different livelihood and you won’t be attacked in the first place.
That's another indication your opinions is uninformed by reality.
Observe how politically correct alpha-fem poodle herds operate in Corporate-collective reality:
PIP seems to have become a popular tool to the new generation middle managers for the purpose of a "homogeneous team". That is, PIP has become an acceptable and common practice to get rid of the "black horse" employee that is typically high-skilled and highly productive, thus at odds with a team of mostly mediocre members (including the manager) and hard to terminate based on pure work performance.
Christians are "ineligible" whenever the herd decides it "feels" they are.
MMmmm. It begs the question, however: How many heterosexuals do you know who only have sex for procreative reasons?
You do know that there are not that many people who make money at that. You can also take school pictures. You still will not make much money at that. Small independent studios die without the weddings and anniversaries.
Restaurant-bakeries?
Which also make wedding and romance cakes.
It is not the only option but it is the one that makes you money.
I used to work for a company that made high end candies.
Guess what we made most of our money on?
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