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To: kabar

don’t try to complicate it

For a Mexican, to be in Wisconsin is a crime from which all others rise.

Just being is criminal

The question to be or not to be resulted in illegal entry and becoming a criminal


43 posted on 02/15/2017 5:23:46 AM PST by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Macroagression melts snowflakes)
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To: bert
don’t try to complicate it

Au contraire. The amnesty advocates seek to portray the majority of illegal aliens as law abiding, hard-working people. Supporters of amnesty like McCain, Flake, Graham, Ryan, and the Dems and the MSM push this narrative. So do even people like Sarah Palin when they discuss who should be allowed to stay, i.e., those who played by the rules. Trump has also made a similar distinction in terms of his priorities. He is going after the bad hombres as his priority. The fate of the rest will be decided later after the wall is built and our border secure.

The distinction as to what constitutes a "criminal alien" is the battleground that is being fought out to garner public support. Entering this country illegally is a misdemeanor. The three most recent amnesty bills, Hagel-Martinez in 2006, McCain-Kennedy in 2007, and the Gang of 8 bill all stated that if you only had three misdemeanors, you could be legalized. In fact the 1986 amnesty contained the same language. It is important in this fight to frame the issues and understand how language is being used to influence the outcome.

The Sensenbrenner enforcement only bill in 2005 ((H.R. 4437) was essentially killed by the Bush administration and a Dem poison pill to make illegal entry into the US a felony. It split the Reps and never went to the Senate. We are going to see similar issues over language and what constitutes a felony versus a misdemeanor and how it applies to illegal aliens. Should illegal aliens charged with DUI be considered "criminal" aliens in terms of setting the priorities on who should be deported?

And it is important to remember that 40% of the illegal aliens came here legally and then overstayed their visas.

For a Mexican, to be in Wisconsin is a crime from which all others rise. Just being is criminal The question to be or not to be resulted in illegal entry and becoming a criminal

I agree, but in the real world, there is a battle going on as to who can and cannot stay based on what constitutes a criminal alien. The almost 800,000 Dreamers who have been legalized unconstitutionally by the Obama administration's executive order present the Trump administration with a serious problem when it comes to deportation. They have been provided legal status by the federal government, including receiving a work permit and an SSN.

As ICE, DOJ, DHS, etc. start enforcing our existing laws, there will be an orchestrated, massive blowback by the pro-amnesty crowd. It will play out in the streets, the MSM, and the courts. One can only hope that Trump does not go wobbly.

55 posted on 02/15/2017 7:16:48 AM PST by kabar
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