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Be Careful What You Wish For
Townhall.com ^ | February 7, 2017 | Cal Thomas

Posted on 02/07/2017 4:43:33 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 02/07/2017 4:43:33 AM PST by Kaslin
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“Johnson, then Democratic minority leader, responded by introducing an amendment to Section 501(c)(3) of the federal tax code dealing with tax-exempt charitable organizations, including groups organized and operated exclusively for religious, charitable, scientific, literacy and educational purposes
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and yet the teachers unions endorse a candidate every election without penalties...


2 posted on 02/07/2017 4:53:39 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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I attended a church where the pastor would tackle the relevant social/political issues from a Biblical perspective. Do I want that every Sunday? No. But I do expect a pastor to be aware of what’s happening and be able to address it from a Biblical perspective.


3 posted on 02/07/2017 4:55:15 AM PST by ealgeone
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>>>Muslims would have to be included. How comfortable would those conservatives now campaigning for repeal of the Johnson law be if some imams began preaching death to America<<<

Simple . . . he has crossed a line and will be arrested for inciting others to commit murder. Total win-win!


4 posted on 02/07/2017 4:56:17 AM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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The premise of this article is silly you can bet mosques are already doing all this stuff including supporting Muslims and preaching against cultural and social norms in this country.


5 posted on 02/07/2017 4:57:24 AM PST by Federal46
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“some imams began preaching death to America and endorsing Muslim candidates for political office?”

The Muslims are a sizable voting block in Virginia now and have recently been credited for putting a Democrat governor in office. There is no doubt the imans are telling Muslims how to vote.


6 posted on 02/07/2017 5:00:59 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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“It said, in effect, that if you want to be absolved from paying taxes, you couldn’t be involved in partisan politics.”

Maybe better to expand it, so that anyone getting government funds (a government benefit, as is tax absolution) can’t be involved in partisan politics, and include in those absolved the 47% that pay zero fed income tax?


7 posted on 02/07/2017 5:01:05 AM PST by polymuser
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>>>Muslims would have to be included. How comfortable would those conservatives now campaigning for repeal of the Johnson law be if some imams began preaching death to America<<<

Simple . . . he has crossed a line and will be arrested for inciting others to commit murder. Total win-win!


They already are. Round um up.


8 posted on 02/07/2017 5:03:35 AM PST by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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--Muslims would have to be included. How comfortable would those conservatives now campaigning for repeal of the Johnson law be if some imams began preaching death to America and endorsing Muslim candidates for political office?--

They already are. That's the point, the only group that the law actually is enforced against is white evangelicals. Every other group just does as they please with impunity.

9 posted on 02/07/2017 5:07:20 AM PST by apillar
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“Muslims would have to be included. How comfortable would those conservatives now campaigning for repeal of the Johnson law be if some imams began preaching death to America and endorsing Muslim candidates for political office?”

Is Cal so stupid and naive that he thinks this isn’t happening now?! Is he so stupid and naive to think black churches worry one iota about this law?!

This past presidential election this black guy I know was bragging in a very public place about how in their church they fill out sample ballots the way they want the congregation to vote and pass them out. When I pointed out ‘weren’t they worried about the law and being caught doing it’. He said ‘no, everybody does it and anyway they have guards at the church doors’.

Evidently it’s just stupid white people that follow this law and have to worry about losing their tax exempt status.


10 posted on 02/07/2017 5:10:57 AM PST by MagnoliaB (You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime you might find, you get what you need.)
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i have no issue with my priest doing the same thing....i dont get at all why there should be any issue, as long as it is tied to God’s teaching.


11 posted on 02/07/2017 5:13:26 AM PST by raygunfan
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Stupid author. My daughter and her husband are leaving their otherwise great church because of the pastor’s namby-pamby election sermons. He made it sound that chosing who to vote for is as consequential as chosing what clothes to wear in the morning. There were no strong words pointing out candidate’s position on abortion, SCOTUS appointments, or general support of Christianity.


12 posted on 02/07/2017 5:14:51 AM PST by The Truth Will Make You Free
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The only ones who obey the law are conservatives, who are also the only ones who would be prosecuted under the law.

So they may as well repeal it, since it is enforced unevenly.

Otherwise, Thomas makes a point that I agree with. Politics must rest upon a moral and spiritual foundation. Get that right, and the politics will take care of itself. Fail to get that right, and it doesn’t matter what party is in office or what politician, you have no chance.

Without effective and authentic preaching, and without a critical mass of citizens who love God, you can’t hire enough cops, and you can’t elect enough politicians to fix what ails us.


13 posted on 02/07/2017 5:21:24 AM PST by marron
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If I go to a political rally, I expect to hear political speeches. When I go to church, I am expecting soul food.

Salt and Light
Matt 5:13-16
13“You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.

“You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven."

Jesus repeatedly spoke against the Pharisees & Sadducees, the ruling elite of his day. Jesus Christ came to redeem sinners AND to teach us how to treat our fellow man, including the ruling elite.

Ezekiel 3:18-19
If I say to the wicked, “You shall surely die,” and you give him no warning, nor speak to warn the wicked from his wicked way, in order to save his life, that wicked person shall die for his iniquity, but his blood I will require at your hand. But if you warn the wicked, and he does not turn from his wickedness, or from his wicked way, he shall die for his iniquity, but you will have delivered your soul.

14 posted on 02/07/2017 5:26:42 AM PST by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
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“...if some imams began preaching death to America and endorsing Muslim candidates for political office?”

Blithering liberal idiot.

Inciting murder and terrorism is already against the law. (Remember what “law” is moron? Refresher course is on the way...)

Beyond preventing the incitement of murder and terrorism, conservatives don’t seem to be all that interested in stifling the political speech of their opponents. This really puzzles the Left. Our ideas tend to win when it’s an actual battle of ideas, as opposed to a violent riot or college snowflakes preventing conservative organizations from operating.


15 posted on 02/07/2017 5:29:41 AM PST by Junk Silver (I have four words for Bill and Hillary Clinton to ponder: "Attorney General Jeff Sessions".)
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To: Federal46
Right -- but that is what might ultimately make it politically palatable to effectively outlaw Islam.

The author doesn't mention this, but it's worth noting that the blurring of the lines between politics and religion has probably been the primary cause of most "religious disputes" in the world through our history. If Muslims weren't so embedded in governments all over the world where Islam is enshrined as a state religion, they'd be treated no differently than the Amish here in the U.S.

16 posted on 02/07/2017 5:30:34 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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It’s called freedom of speech. If a person doesn’t want to hear any politics from the pulpit, then go to another church.


17 posted on 02/07/2017 5:42:49 AM PST by xenia ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell)
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To: Junk Silver
This is what I think of your post


18 posted on 02/07/2017 5:56:23 AM PST by Kaslin ( Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible)
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At best, the Johnson amendment is a fig leaf. I see a myriad of leftist non-profits doing vast amounts of political activities. On principle, I don’t see why a group has to give up certain God given rights to have a tax break.

Second, I think the whole non-profit nonsense needs to be rethought and reined in sharply. A true charity should be spending, perhaps, 80+% of its money on true charity activities that is tightly defined - religious activities, helping the poor with basic needs - food, shelter, clothing, addictions kind of activities. Excluded is all the other nonsense including advocacy, voter related activities, environmental activities, legal activities and other such.


19 posted on 02/07/2017 6:31:37 AM PST by rigelkentaurus
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> Muslims would have to be included.

Cults are not religions.


20 posted on 02/07/2017 9:53:44 AM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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