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To: Windflier
You don't understand. Trump doesn't have his chess pieces in place.

He needs to get Sessions and his SCOTUS pick safely confirmed, then he's going to go all out. Trust me, Trump isn't the greatest negotiator in modern American business history for nothing. Also he's got Steve Bannon from Breitbart on his side.

Trump has the law firmly on his side. But he's not going to risk throwing this country in flames. Everything will work out in the end. This judge will get smacked down, Trump will get his cabinet assembled, and they're going to go hard on this issue.

43 posted on 02/04/2017 6:44:36 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (STOP THE TAPE!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
You don't understand. Trump doesn't have his chess pieces in place. He needs to get Sessions and his SCOTUS pick safely confirmed, then he's going to go all out.

No, YOU don't understand. Trump is letting a circuit court judge usurp his legal, constitutional authority in this matter. To make things worse, not only is he not asserting his well grounded authority to enforce his EO, he's now appealing to the judicial branch to give him permission to act as president.

Wrong move, and my gut tells me it wasn't Trump's first instinctual response. My guess is, he was talked into making this pussy play by members of his advisory team.

Now that he's done it, things will play out exactly as most Freepers could have told him. The 9th Circuit will uphold the lower court ruling, throwing it to the Supremes, who will predictably deadlock, which then throws it back to the 9th Circuit decision.

Result? The President's authority under statute law and the Constitution is rendered null and void.

I'm so pissed about this, I could spit nails!

51 posted on 02/04/2017 7:25:58 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“Everything will work out in the end.”

9th circuit may surprise us, it’s happened before, and as you point out “Trump has the law firmly on his side.” They may just rule for an emergency stay.

Ask this crap for what is a temporary policy to begin with.


54 posted on 02/04/2017 7:41:02 PM PST by moehoward
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
It does no damn good to have the law on your side when you have judges who totally ignore it and make it up to suit themselves.

He should have ignored the order or just delayed it indefinitely.

Then sent strict orders to his employees mangers to terminate any one that violated his orders like President Reagen did with the air controllers. When a few dozen lost their jobs this would have stopped.

He still needs to fire everyone who disobeys his orders

You can't run all those law enforcement agencies or the armed services when everyone from the janitors to department head or going to refuse or debate every order you give.

If he doesn't maintain his authority the democrat and republican establishment are going to make him totally unable to effectively do his job.

The people he appoints needs to get some tough managers in those offices and put them people to work and those that want to cause trouble or play politics need to be dealt with quickly and firmly.

65 posted on 02/05/2017 3:14:57 AM PST by mississippi red-neck ( When A People and Their Leaders Turn Back on God. He Turns Their Mind Repobate.)
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