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How Violence Undermined the Berkeley Protest
The New York Times (!!!) ^ | February 2, 2017 | Malini Ramaiyer

Posted on 02/02/2017 7:43:14 PM PST by proxy_user

BERKELEY, Calif. — What do you do as a reporter when a protest begins? You cover it.

But what about when the man being protested is known for rhetoric that makes you nauseated? Or when you see a student get beaten up because he looked “like a Nazi”?

How do you remain objective?

Those were the questions that faced me when, as a reporter for the student newspaper at the University of California, Berkeley, I covered the protest on Wednesday night at the college that turned violent, drawing national attention. I didn’t know what to think about it all, and truthfully, I still don’t.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: berkeley; fakenews; fakestreammedia; milo; miloatberkeley; pizzagazetteny; protest; snowflakes; trump
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Still too dumb to figure it out, eh? The anarachists, at least, don't have this problem. They understand what they propose to do, and set about doing it. So, for that matter, does President Trump.

I guess you'll just have to pick a side...

1 posted on 02/02/2017 7:43:14 PM PST by proxy_user
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How Violence Undermined the Berkeley Protest

Spin, spin, spin.

The violence at Berkeley may have undermined the New York Times' ongoing attempt to push its agenda, but it certainly didn't undermine the aims of the protestors or their paymasters.

The violence was exactly what was ordered, and what was desired.

2 posted on 02/02/2017 7:45:55 PM PST by Steely Tom (Liberals think in propaganda)
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Found this in the comment section of an article:

For those of you who don’t know me, I have extensive history and connections in leftist activism from previous movements, but I’m essentially a pariah now because I split with them when the the SJWs seized power from the older relatively moderate activists and went full authoritarianism. None the less.. I’m still in all those social circles and I see the discussions going on behind the scenes.

After a long progression, and seeing how things have settled out after the Trump election: We’re headed for rebellion and possibly a full blown civil war. I’ve always been skeptical of that largely because neither side would be willing to fire the first shot. That is no longer the case. There is universal calls for, planning of, and efforts to conduct warfare within the left right now. And I don’t mean that in the metaphorical sense. They are raising their army.

What’s always held the left back in the past is that they knew they could never win in a violent conflict. Both because of a lack of skill, experience, and equipment, but also because of internal disagreement on tactics; being that most within the left would not engage in violence because they believed the greatest strategy was to hold the moral high ground and ruin support and assistance to their opponents. This is no longer the case.

Within the left the pacifists have been solidly silenced by a massive propaganda effort and intimidation (expressing even remotely pacifist views within the left right now can put you in physical danger and in danger of losing things like employment and other social and economic needs). Even people who were extremely vocal and dedicated absolute pacifists, are now reduced to at the very least openly providing passive support for political violence. At this point ‘punching NAZIs’ is all the rage. They’ve managed to dehumanize their political opponents so that’s no longer considered wrong to physically harm them. They’re all looking for a NAZI to punch. And right now anyone who does it perfectly mirror their political views, is a NAZI. And it’s already primed to move into ‘killing NAZIs.’’

And of course the biggest limiting factor is that they have known that they do not stand a chance against a well armed and sufficiently skilled political rights and moderates. After countless efforts to disarm the right in order to reduce it to an inferior fighting force, the AnComs and such have moved to arming themselves. It is no longer a social taboo. Everyone accepts it as a necessary evil. But beyond the arms, the turning point on this front is that they now universally believe themselves to have such a massive majority of the population backing them that they have a significant military advantage. This due to propoganda efforts (the same ones that told them Hillary was going to win in a landslide) and because of a massive mobilization network. They believe they can mass so many people at one location so quickly that they can overwhelm defenders and seize their resources, disperse, and then strike again repeatedly until the right has been defeated.

Here’s an example of what I’m seeing being said within activist circles:

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History may occur in patterns but it’s hardly predictable, least of all to the participants on the ground. In late October, no one really expected Trump would win. And tonight we are witnessing another unpredictable scenario—less than a week after the largest protests in US history, thousands of people across the country are shutting down airports to help their Muslim brothers and sisters. Make no mistake, what we’re seeing is unlike anything our country has seen in decades. It’s like Occupy and Black Lives Matter, immigration, and the nuclear protests all wrapped into one giant orange **** storm. I’m putting my chips on the table: Trump will be the first President brought down by a popular revolution...and it’s going to happen in months not years. Obama’s presidency bought mileage for the empire by assuaging liberals, but Trump is stepping on the gas with empty fumes. We are going to get our second revolution, and it will be spectacular.

This is not what I was expecting to see after a Trump election. I figured people would just get moody and ****y and whine and gripe, but eventually moderate themselves and return to the old left. I was expecting 4 more years of the left from the Bush years. Instead they’ve doubled down on everything and gotten far more extreme in their desire to forcefully impose their will on others and their belief that they have the power to successfully do so. These people are in a frenzy and they’re now completing with each other as to who’s the most militant and violent. That spiral will eventually escalate to a point of open conflict. I’ve never been so worried about a civil war as I am right now. And with my pariah status I’m concerned I worry I may very well become a target. It’s enough that I’m out of the political debate for safety reasons, just like a couple years ago I had to pull out of street protesting for the same reason.

What I expect at this point is something that will play out on a very similar path as the 2014 Ukrainian revolution.

http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=665529


3 posted on 02/02/2017 7:46:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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The NYTs is *still* pretending to be objective?

Maybe not, as the reporter claimed that Milo’s rhetoric made her “nauseated”.

No objectivity for you!


4 posted on 02/02/2017 7:48:58 PM PST by marktwain (We wanted to tell our side of the story. We hope by us telling our story...)
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It tattooed the protesters vor the violent thugs that they are.
5 posted on 02/02/2017 7:50:12 PM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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UNDERMINED..?

Lessay there had been ZERO violence:

Preventing certain types of speech is good in a “Free Speech Zone”...?

That’s like, “We’re SUPER inclusive here —we just don’t like n*ggers...”

Would anyone tolerate that, even if there weren’t a single speck of violence...?

NOT IN A MILLION YEARS.


6 posted on 02/02/2017 7:50:13 PM PST by gaijin
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7 posted on 02/02/2017 7:51:26 PM PST by nwrep
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It was not a protest; it was a riot. How can news not be fake news when the NYT cannot even get the headline right?


8 posted on 02/02/2017 7:51:38 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie ( Agenda driven news is fake news.)
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To: Steely Tom

How Violence Undermined the Berkeley Protest
Spin, spin, spin.

The violence at Berkeley may have undermined the New York Times’ ongoing attempt to push its agenda, but it certainly didn’t undermine the aims of the protestors or their paymasters.

The violence was exactly what was ordered, and what was desired.
.....

Cosign!


9 posted on 02/02/2017 7:53:33 PM PST by snarkytart
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Vilence was the entire point of the “protest”

TO send the message that the left intends to intimidate and if necessary harm anyone who stands in its way.


10 posted on 02/02/2017 7:54:15 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who has any idea what happened n the “Ukraininan Recolution”.


11 posted on 02/02/2017 7:55:06 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: nwrep

Mex-muslim mutt?


12 posted on 02/02/2017 7:55:30 PM PST by lightman (Trump = The Twenty-first century's Teddy Roosevelt!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Very interesting. I wonder how many this delusion applies to.

It will end very badly for them, I am sure. The main impediment is their delusion that a large majority will support them.

I do not see it as even a large minority. Most likely, less than 10% of the population, concentrated in a few liberal cities, such as New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco.

That will not translate into a revolution, at least not for long.


13 posted on 02/02/2017 7:56:20 PM PST by marktwain (We wanted to tell our side of the story. We hope by us telling our story...)
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To: nwrep

What she was describing is cognitive dissonance.


14 posted on 02/02/2017 7:56:22 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: proxy_user

Of course, the only person who was verified as injured was a Syrian Muslim wearing a suit. And he fled before he gave his name. Anyone else smell BS?


15 posted on 02/02/2017 7:56:30 PM PST by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: marktwain

Malini Ramaiyer is a first-year student at the University of California, Berkeley.

So really a 19-20 year old snowflake who might be having a slow awakening ?


16 posted on 02/02/2017 7:57:16 PM PST by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Delusions of Grandeur?
17 posted on 02/02/2017 7:57:46 PM PST by granite (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left - Ecc 10:2)
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To: marktwain

Every liberal is a violent totalitarian thug.


18 posted on 02/02/2017 7:59:16 PM PST by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hmmmm...we better organize before those evil libertards have a head start on us!!! With Kaine, the HELLywood demons, the Muslims who WILL NOT assimilate and the mediapukes fueling the fire of anarchy and death, I hope our side is well equipped with ammo to fight!!


19 posted on 02/02/2017 8:02:03 PM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dead. That’s what will happen to them. Dead, disemboweled, dismembered, incinerated. Did I say dead? These people have fallen off the edge of reality.


20 posted on 02/02/2017 8:03:37 PM PST by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them.)
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