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To: odds

I am not suggesting anything of the sort, nor making any conclusions. Just reporting what I recall about what have I read over the years, so I can’t tell you specifically which plane was shot down-it was long ago, and I don’t remember. I do remember that the first plane downed after that was the one over Lockerbie.

It is my understanding that the Fatwa can be followed by any of the radical terrorist, no matter what country, but IIRC, it was an Iranian Cleric who declared the Fatwa, and so declared war on USA.

It is not entirely clear to me why Mattis is so focused on Iran. Just that he apparently feels that Radical Political Islam needs to be defeated, and that won’t happen due to Iran. Suggest you go to you tube and type in his name and listen to some of his speeches. I did post some links to threads after he was named, but don’t have them bookmarked.

Concern about muslims? I am concerned that our Military is being used to literally destroy entire countries and replacing those regimes with Terrorists like the Muslim Brotherhood who will kill Christians and other Muslims in horrific fashion. I don’t approve of giving arms to ISIS.

I am upset that the rules of engagement are such that our brave soldiers are killed. I am upset that we sent our Military in with no clear objective, and that we have been fighting for 16 years and there is no end in sight.

I am upset that the Government has used the 9/11 attacks as an excuse to pass all kinds of laws that can be used against Americans that violate the Constitution, and are militarizing the police, and setting up Regional Councils to stealthily bring Agenda 21 and Agenda 2030 Global Government under the UN-subverting our country.

I am upset that we are being subjected to constant PSYOPS from the LSM to divide black against white, rich against poor, etc. I am upset that LSM, is encouraging violence and keeps talking about assassination.

I am upset against a great many things, and Muslims aren’t at the top. Heck, I’m even upset that Carter went in and destabilized Iran and took down the Shaw over an argument relating to renewal of BP oil lease.

One of Trump’s Generals stated that Assad would have already been gone, if Iran hadn’t helped him. As for the Iranian people, only 10% were part of the Revolution, so I doubt that they really wanted to live under Kohmeni, but Carter wouldn’t listen to his advisors, he said that Kohmeni was a religious man, and would be better to deal with.

I am extremely upset that during my lifetime, our CIA has toppled something like 81 governments, and most of the time there was no debate about it, and it wasn’t really reported. So the LSM and CIA try to convince the American people that Trump is a stooge of the Kremlin, and McCain bellows that we need to go war with Russia because they interfered with our democracy. POT meet KETTLE. That really hacks me off.

So, I am extremely upset about a great many things, and while muslims are not at the top of the list, but since you asked, I don’t like what has happened anywhere in the Middle East. If I had my way we would have become energy independent and got out of the Middle East decades ago.

The lives of our brave men and women in the Military are more important to me than anyone in the hell hole that is the Middle East or Europe either for that matter.


63 posted on 02/02/2017 9:23:39 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes

In relation to Mattis, I’ve seen the youtube clips. He is rightly focused on Iranian regime, but that isn’t and shouldn’t be his sole focus - there are significant others involved.

I’m of course not privy to any official or unofficial plans or discussions, but know enough from personal knowledge and experience to put forward a logical & reasonable perspective.

The focus on Iran is not simply because of the Mullahs’ regime. It’s because Iran generally has been singled out (for decades) to be the cause of all evil in the world. In reality it is not true. Though, that’s politics.

I am sure many people are upset and mostly very concerned. Many because any major escalation resulting in war can affect us all.

One reason I like/liked Trump was because of thinking he’d be smart enough to find a feasible, alternative to war solution(s), to get rid of ALL “Islamic Terrorism”.


66 posted on 02/02/2017 10:09:07 PM PST by odds
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