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To: Elsie; IronJack
It could be argued that what Samson did was not suicide, because it was a foreseen but not-directly-intended consequence of his intended action: killing a bunch of enemy Philistines.

It was a collateral death: an example of Double Effect.

It's like a soldier who throws himself on a live grenade to save his buddies. It is not suicide. The intent was to save the buddies. His death was foreseen but not intended. If he had done it and by some crazy circumstances lives, he woul consider it a "plus" because his own death, while accepted, was not intended.

THis is my opinion.

121 posted on 01/31/2017 3:32:13 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Cast all your cares on the Lord, because He cares for you." - 1 Peter 5:7)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Not to mention, I believe there is a passage that says "Greater love hath no man, than he lay down his life for his friends."

Laying down one's life is not the same as committing suicide. One would seem to earn God's praise; the other His scorn.

But back to the topic at hand, I believe God would look into this poor man's heart and see that all he wanted was surcease from pain. Maybe that's a moral failing, but I don't think He would damn anyone for merely being human.

Then again, I'm not God.

133 posted on 01/31/2017 4:30:10 PM PST by IronJack
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To: Mrs. Don-o
THis is my opinion.

As valueless as mine.

What does your chosen religion teach?

149 posted on 02/01/2017 3:41:09 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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