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1 posted on 01/24/2017 7:03:17 AM PST by george76
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Trump’s fault!


2 posted on 01/24/2017 7:04:23 AM PST by gr8eman (The guys who picked last season's loser are already excited about next season's loser.)
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No federal bailouts. The libs in Cal. brought this upon themselves, and they need to figure a way out. They can do it!


3 posted on 01/24/2017 7:04:55 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie ( Agenda driven news is fake news.)
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Pretty soon there will be no money for schools just pensions. Schools will close because all school employees will be retired.


4 posted on 01/24/2017 7:08:12 AM PST by SkyDancer (Ambition Without Talent Is Sad, Talent Without Ambition Is Worse)
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REFERENCE---Stanford Study Reveals California Pensions
Underfunded By $1 Trillion......Or $93k Per Household

Zero Hedge ^ | Dec 2, 2016 | Tyler Durden / FR Posted by george76

The Kersten Institute for Governance and Public Policy highlighted an updated pension study, released by the Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research, which revealed some fairly startling realities about California's public pension underfunding levels. After averaging $77,700 per household in 2014, the amount of public pension underfunding for the state of California jumped to a staggering $92,748 per household in 2015.

But don't worry, we're sure pension managers can grow their way out of the problem...hedge fund returns have been stellar recently, right?

Stanford University’s pension tracker database pegs the market value of California’s total pension debt at $1 trillion or $93,000 per California household in 2015.

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Looking back to 2008, the underfunding levels of California's public pension have skyrocketed 157% on abysmal asset returns and growing liabilities resulting from lower discount rates.

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Perhaps this helps shed some light on why CalPERS is having such a difficult time with what should have been an easy decision to lower their long-term return expectations to 6% from 7.5% (see "CalPERS Weighs Pros/Cons Of Setting Reasonable Return Targets Vs. Maintaining Ponzi Scheme")...$93k per household just seems so much more "manageable" than $150k.

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Of course, at this point the question isn't "if" these P onzi schemes will blow up.....but rather which one will go first? We have our money on Dallas Police and Fire... (Excerpt) Read more at zerohedge.com ...

6 posted on 01/24/2017 7:09:29 AM PST by Liz
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Since all “educators” do everything “for the children”, why don’t they refuse to take all of their inflated pension and benefits? ...unless they don’t care about “the children”.


9 posted on 01/24/2017 7:13:31 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?.)
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They should secede now!! Mexico will happily pay their bills.


10 posted on 01/24/2017 7:14:08 AM PST by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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Look for the union label.


11 posted on 01/24/2017 7:15:06 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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Not the only Retirement/Pension plan that will kill California. When we lived there, I remember arguing with my Leftist brother about the prison guards plan. IIRC, prison guards can retire, on full pension, at age 50. His argument was 'prison guards are in a dangerous job, they should be able to retire at full pension at age 50'. My argument was 'how will the taxpayers pay for all the prison guards when each will retire at 50, another one will be hired and, when that person reaches 50, he/she will retire and another guard will need to be hired. So, saying that the first one lives to 75, that is paying out 3 salaries for one position'. My argument fell on deaf ears because, you know, Leftists are ALWAYS RIGHT. California is beautiful, but soooo screwed by Dem policies and laws. Maybe all those rich, fat-cat celebrities should bail out California?
12 posted on 01/24/2017 7:16:09 AM PST by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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$300 billion in assets that is the country’s largest, manages retirement benefits for 1.8 million current and former city, state and school district employees,

Let's see: $300,000,000,000/1,800,000 people = $167,000 per person. That is not much to generate a steady income flow to support someone. It's a start, but a rather poor one.

15 posted on 01/24/2017 7:26:32 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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#youdontneednoeducation. #feetupgradesdown


16 posted on 01/24/2017 7:26:41 AM PST by momincombatboots (Pray for Sky, 20, two gunshots to abdomen, college student, hostess, easy prey n transformed US)
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“School district officials say that unless the situation changes, they will have to make cuts elsewhere”

Simple, get rid of all the ESL classes.


18 posted on 01/24/2017 7:29:30 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)
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“School district officials say that unless the situation changes, they will have to make cuts elsewhere”

Simple, get rid of all the ESL classes.


19 posted on 01/24/2017 7:29:30 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)
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As a Californian I can’t help but smile. Trump the deal-maker has just been handed leverage to bring CA to its knees.


24 posted on 01/24/2017 7:35:58 AM PST by JPX2011
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Raise taxes on “the rich” and redistribute the wealth to democrat voters/donors pension plan.


25 posted on 01/24/2017 7:38:21 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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As I read this, I’m thinking of a house for sale down the street. It’s on the market because its owners, two retired teachers, decided four homes were a bit too much. After all, they have to keep up with their other homes in Florida, Arkansas and New York. It’s easy to have three very nice homes when your combined teacher pensions are $230,000 per year.


26 posted on 01/24/2017 7:39:22 AM PST by Restless
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This along with the $1.9 billion dollar oops over at the Medi-Cal department could add up to some problems.


27 posted on 01/24/2017 7:42:05 AM PST by artichokegrower
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. . . will have to make cuts elsewhere, possibly leading to larger class sizes, stagnant worker pay, fewer counselors and librarians, and less art and music in schools.

But no mention of reducing administrative positions or reducing their pay increases.

29 posted on 01/24/2017 7:49:12 AM PST by Oatka
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THe investment funds took a signifiant hit in returns when CalPers withdrew from stocks and funds that were not acceptable for some Social goal reason or tied to countries not in favor with SJW. TAxpayers picked up the bill,again.


30 posted on 01/24/2017 7:53:33 AM PST by georgiarat (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize - Volttai)
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Why doesn’t the State and these municipalities just TAX their Highly Coveted Illegal Aliens to cover the shortfall??

According to the Politicians they are the very Life Blood of our economy and our future. Maybe they should start PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE!


31 posted on 01/24/2017 7:55:33 AM PST by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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The California pension fiasco is coming to a head just when Trump is about to cut off the federal money river? How.... unfortunate.

Maybe this is the reason Cali is trying to secede, they need to print their own funny money to cover their debt with fiat funny-money. However if California tries secession almost al of their companies are chartered in Delaware and Nevada and their biggest customer base is in the rest of the US. California has a pretty sh*tty hand.

34 posted on 01/24/2017 7:57:43 AM PST by WMarshal ( Schadenfreude, it feels so good!)
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