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Via email from http://www.yescalifornia.org/ ^ | January 16, 2017 | Yes California

Posted on 01/16/2017 10:42:08 AM PST by MeganC

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To: A_Former_Democrat

An independent California would probably be instantly engulfed in civil war as the Enclaves try to retain control of the agricultural areas. The Tekkelites would have a vast amount of manpower to draw on for troops but the Americans would have most of the guns, at least at first.


41 posted on 01/16/2017 11:37:44 AM PST by arthurus
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To: tomkat

Certain areas like San Diego will not be amenable to being part of the new nation. The military assets there will guarantee that it remains part of Traditional America. Most of the other military zones the same. SF and LA will have a hard time getting control of the inland and northern areas. YesCalifornia needs to have a plan to transport its illegals all over the state to seed manpower strategically. Trouble is, will the wetbacks fight for the Tekks or will they drift away and wait for freebies to rain on them?


42 posted on 01/16/2017 11:44:06 AM PST by arthurus
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To: MeganC

Does this mean they’ll lose the $30 billion in federal subsidies each year?


43 posted on 01/16/2017 11:46:35 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: tumblindice
But you made your beds. Wait a second. Illegals made your beds.

YOU win the thread !   ;-)

44 posted on 01/16/2017 11:48:23 AM PST by tomkat
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To: MeganC

A hundred modern day General Sherman’s will invade California with their armies, conquer the place, and force their reconstructed asses back into the union, minus the illegals, anchor babies and liberals.

Back to being a red state like it once was!

Make California Great Again!


45 posted on 01/16/2017 11:49:24 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (January 20, 2017....America's liberation day approaches.....)
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To: reformedliberal; jonno
The downside is that this is a Trojan Horse for a foreign beachhead in the continental USA.

You've got it. Exactly.

46 posted on 01/16/2017 11:54:34 AM PST by thecodont
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To: kosciusko51

“The Curley effect.”.......woop woop woop...nuck..nuck..nuck..


47 posted on 01/16/2017 11:56:50 AM PST by Husker24
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To: thecodont; reformedliberal; jonno; MeganC; 1rudeboy
The downside is that this is a Trojan Horse for a foreign beachhead in the continental USA.

1. The United States of America does not need a Kalingrad Oblast.

2. Make California Great Again! Yes! President-Elect Trump, soon to be President, please do not forget California and all the wealth she has to offer!

48 posted on 01/16/2017 11:58:53 AM PST by thecodont
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To: dragnet2

For the last 10 years I have voted for the creation of the GREAT STATE of JEFFERSON.
So. Cal. can suck up to the WETBACKS all they want, it is a desert and we will cut off their water and food.
LET THEM ALL DIE IN THE SAND AND THE DARK.


49 posted on 01/16/2017 12:00:17 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: arthurus
Trouble is, will the wetbacks fight for the Tekks or will they drift away and wait for freebies to rain on them?

These three things alone would solve 90% of our illegal alien problems:

1) Immediately stop all food/cash/health benefits to non-citizens

2) Prohibit (or severely restrict) Western Union, et al from handling dollar transfers TO Mexico

3) Enforce a $10,000 fine on any employer found using illegal aliens in their workforce

Most of our current wetbacks would self deport, and those few choosing to remain would likely go back to mowing lawns etc and STFU.

50 posted on 01/16/2017 12:03:41 PM PST by tomkat
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1) Immediately stop all food/cash/health benefits to non-citizens

CA did that, and passed prop 187 overwhelmingly way back in 1994. The fed gov working in concert with their state gov co-conspirators burned the CA ballots and declared their victorious historic election illegal.

Prop 187 would have ended the heavy burden of tax paid services for illegals.

51 posted on 01/16/2017 12:12:11 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 5th MEB

When you win that election, ping me.


52 posted on 01/16/2017 12:13:33 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: MeganC

If they’ll accept non-Californians as voters as eagerly as they are willing to accept illegal aliens, I’ll be glad to sign up.


53 posted on 01/16/2017 12:20:11 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: dragnet2

Exactly right.

The Ninth Circut declared it unconstitutional.

These are the things folks out of state forget, when they trash Californians.

We got it right at the ballot box.

The Feds shut it down!


54 posted on 01/16/2017 12:20:42 PM PST by DoughtyOne (John McStain. The friend of those who hate our nation.)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

As a lifetime California Citizen, the Calexit folks can go to hell.


55 posted on 01/16/2017 12:26:30 PM PST by crusher2013
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To: crusher2013

They can secede but as part of it, the hacks that run the government need to stay in power for at least 5 years. This way the rest of California can sharpen their pitch forks while the new country burns.


56 posted on 01/16/2017 12:28:57 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (CNN - The Chicken Noodle Network)
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To: dragnet2

Maybe our new Sheriff and his court picks can breathe new life into 187 ?


57 posted on 01/16/2017 12:37:06 PM PST by tomkat
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To: DoughtyOne
These are the things folks out of state forget, when they trash Californians. We got it right at the ballot box. The Feds shut it down!

Yep, and I've just about given up on the ignorant who think everyone here is some deranged diaper wearing deviate commie leftist. Many simply have no idea. Zip.

58 posted on 01/16/2017 12:39:59 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

no, we not only know better but have great respect for the state providing the most monetary support for Free Republic the nation.

However, we also know that you are of no consequence in the overall scheme of things controlled by the leftists. Even when you did get it right on referenda, a crooked judge made his own law. You lack raw political clout.


59 posted on 01/16/2017 12:46:52 PM PST by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Macroagression melts snowflakes)
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To: MeganC

They would lose the defense industry — those companies would all move out of CA.


60 posted on 01/16/2017 12:52:02 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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