Posted on 01/13/2017 12:34:40 AM PST by detective
Will President Obama pardon Hillary Clinton before he leaves office? A question curiously non-discussed in the media.
However, when you accept that CNN’s broadcasted narratives, ie. the preferred positions of the U.S. Department of State, are generally good predictors of the political forecast, all signs point to yes.
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That comes from the Garland case mentioned upthread. Garland was granted a pardon for crimes that may have occurred during the Civil War.
Bingo. Obama is just as dirty as the Clintons but what he has done is still partly under the radar compared to the Clintons. Regardless, the Clintons are sitting on hundreds of millions in the foundation which almost certainly will now be wound down given that she lost the election and hence the money train has dried up. As part of any deal, rest assured that Obama will end up with the lion’s share of the Clinton Foundation’s assets….
Obama will pardon her & Hollywood will think it’s wonderful that her persecution is over. Obama will be seen as a hero.
You are correct I aimed too low. Since the Clinton Foundation is so wealthy, let’s up the ante. Say $500 million?
You are innocent until proved guilty in a court of law.
Therefore, what purpose is served by pardoning an innocent person?
Can an innocent person be pardoned?
There used to be a website that had a cam on a real 8ball and a button to push to have a mechanism shake the ball to get a new answer.
‘Ex Parte Garland’ and a couple other cases are the reason the Ford pardon of Nixon was never seriously challenged.
The power of pardon is rooted in common law and original intent. Were it being newly considered by the current lawless courts, it might not stand, but now there are long-standing precedents and significant historical actions connected to it, so it will remain nearly absolute.
Flagrant abuse of presidential pardon could always result in impeachment.
“You are the one being obtuse”
Let me give you a little info. When you try to insult someone that you have garnered no respect from, your insult just rolls right into the sewer where insult fails go.
Now, back to the discussion.............if these aren’t charges what do you call them?
http://watergate.info/impeachment/articles-of-impeachment
“Under the Constitution’s Article I, Sections 2 and 3, and Article II, Section 4, President Richard M. Nixon might well have been convicted at an impeachment trial for “high crimes and misdemeanors,” and, indeed, the very real threat of just such a verdict in the Senate probably led him to resign in August 1974. But the Constitution still would have allowed a federal grand jury to go forward and levy criminal charges against him.
President Ford’s pardon ended that prospect.”
I totally agree with you about Obama and his eligibility to be POTUS. I hope the corruption gets cleared out and the truth about it finally gets to come out.
Perhaps “turnabout is fair play” as the saying goes.
Why could the newly elected Trump charge not only Hitlary but odumbo as well. Both of those two committed huge acts of crime against our nations laws which the common man would be convicted for and never again see the light of day.
Tell me once again about our “just us” system.
The distinction is crimes committed during war time versus crimes committed during peace time. During war there is a break down of civil authority and general chaos. During the chaos crimes will be committed due to circumstance. During peace there is civil authority and general order.
Currently the extraordinary circumstance of war is absent and is not a mitigating factor which warrants a blanket pardon. This is also true in the 1974 pardon of Nixon.
Had any of us handled IT equipment as she and her cohorts did, we’d be at the bottom of the ocean by now. Just this one thing would take us out.
Well, that’s an argument. But it fails the historical test of Carter’s pardon of draft dodgers and some other individual cases.
I totally agree with you .. for her to be pardoned, she HAS to admit she committed some crime .. and since they’re all saying she didn’t do anything wrong .. THEN SHE DOESN’T DESERVE A PARDON.
Two wrongs don’t make a right.
will she win the presidency or not?
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She’s already lost 3 times. 3 strikes, you’re out. Unless your union.
Time limits eh? I think that for it to give Hillary any solace Obama would have pardon her for her whole miserable life.
I am not a lawyer, but I believe from all that I have read, that she does not have to be formally accused or charged. And the very fact that President Ford’s pardon of Nixon has been accepted as legal is really all that the precedent requires. The bottom line is this: if Obama pardons Hillary - that’s it. End game. You and I won’t like it, but that’s the way it is.
my point was that CN was soooo sure she would win durign the general election- they all but announced her victory before it was over- so why should we think CNN’s “Indicators’ that she will be pardoned are accurate now? CNN is fake news- they’ve proven that
“Can an innocent person be pardoned?”
A president can pardon anyone for any federal crime whether or not they have been accused.
In 1866, the Supreme Court ruled in Ex parte Garland that the pardon power “extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken, or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment.” (In that case, a former Confederate senator successfully petitioned the court to uphold a pardon that prevented him from being disbarred.) Generally speaking, once an act has been committed, the president can issue a pardon at any time—regardless of whether charges have even been filed.
“Can you direct us to a link for the exact law about that?”
A president can pardon anyone for any federal crime whether or not they have been accused.
In 1866, the Supreme Court ruled in Ex parte Garland that the pardon power “extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken, or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment.” (In that case, a former Confederate senator successfully petitioned the court to uphold a pardon that prevented him from being disbarred.) Generally speaking, once an act has been committed, the president can issue a pardon at any time—regardless of whether charges have even been filed.
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