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Michigan man ticketed for warming car in driveway; police chief tells him to ‘drop dead’
The Washington Times ^ | January 10, 2017 | Jessica Chasmar

Posted on 01/11/2017 3:59:12 AM PST by southern rock

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To: Pravious
"What a retarded law."

Maybe so - there are a lot of them, and many agencies in the country seem to want to 'protect us from ourselves'. So do you obey only the ones that aren't retarded?

A car running unattended in any neighborhood is at-risk for theft or vandalism. Imagine how that is amplified in a high crime area, where the temptation of a warm car reaches out to a ne'er-do-well or homeless thief.

Have I ever done it? Sure. May do it again sometime, for a minute or two. But, then I will be doing something that's becoming more and more rare: Accepting responsibility for my actions. If I'm ticketed because of a retarded law or my car is stolen and used in a robbery or is involved in an accident that injures someone, you won't see me complaining about a stupid law on FaceBook.

21 posted on 01/11/2017 4:46:50 AM PST by DJ Frisat (Hey, what happened to my clever tag line?!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The snowflakes
are the global warming auhorities ticketing people for spending their own gas.

Big brother is alive in Michigan apparently


22 posted on 01/11/2017 4:46:55 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Uh, your town just enacted a ticket program for power tools left unattended in your garage. Cops are back there right now writing you up.


23 posted on 01/11/2017 4:49:33 AM PST by anton
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To: southern rock

Northeastern liberals getting the government they voted for!!!


24 posted on 01/11/2017 4:50:46 AM PST by ontap
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

“I’m actually with the police officer on this one... the guy was inviting theft..”

Well, then let’s go a bit farther and really reduce crime. Anyone leaving a door or window unlocked in their home.. ticket them. Women jogging in parks? Ticket them. Leave a snow blower or lawn mower in plain view in the carport? Ticket them. Blinds or drapes open in the bedroom areas? Ticket them. The owner doesn’t seem “snowflakey” to me. A snowflake turns over any and all sorts of freedom and personal liberties to be protected by “others” who they assume “know better”. If a person can park a vehicle on their own property without it being tagged... then a person can heat up their own car on said property. JMHO.


25 posted on 01/11/2017 4:51:32 AM PST by momtothree
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To: Sir_Humphrey
Misleading headline. He was ticketed for leaving the car running and unattended.

It's in HIS driveway or yard or wherever!

26 posted on 01/11/2017 4:52:42 AM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: southern rock

And don’t leave the door of your house unlocked when you walk down the driveway to the mailbox.


27 posted on 01/11/2017 4:53:57 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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Unattended. Unlocked? What about all those bells and whistles such as remote start up that come off of the assembly line and sold as an option bundle?

How many houses are left running (POWERED UP) unlocked and unattended? Are the cops checking those doors too?

This will probably loose in court. Especially if it was a factory remote feature.


28 posted on 01/11/2017 4:54:22 AM PST by Clutch Martin (Hot sauce aside, every culture has its pancake, just as every culture has its egg roll.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

You seem a little “snowflakey” to me.

Keys in vehicles and unlocked doors do not cause theft.

A lack of character causes theft.


29 posted on 01/11/2017 4:56:29 AM PST by Hugh the Scot ( Total War)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

How about minding your own business?

Cars are stolen when they are locked in garages!

Did those people invite it because they just had a car?


30 posted on 01/11/2017 5:01:40 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: southern rock

Cop should have gone inside to check if any mattress tags were torn off.


31 posted on 01/11/2017 5:02:24 AM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: DJ Frisat

What if a kid leaves a baseball bat on the front lawn, and some criminal walks by, steals it and uses it to beat someone up with. Should we fine the kid?

Where’s this government intrusion into our lives stop? Should carrying paper money be illegal, because it might tempt someone into stealing it?


32 posted on 01/11/2017 5:04:25 AM PST by Pravious
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To: southern rock

Wow, 128 bucks.
That’s less that the $150 ticket I got for maintaining a bird feeder. And less that the $200 ticket we got the previous year for grass over 12-inches in height (It rained every day for 10 days and the grass was 4-inches but the dandelion heads popped up to about 13-inches.)


33 posted on 01/11/2017 5:07:37 AM PST by BuffaloJack
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To: Ray76

The cops should also check to see if they have any food items beyond the expiration dates.


34 posted on 01/11/2017 5:07:57 AM PST by Original Lurker
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

There is no evidence that the car was unlocked.

It was on private property, the police officer should not have been there.

In this case officer dipsh!t was a correct title.


35 posted on 01/11/2017 5:21:00 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Ray76
Cop should have gone inside to check if any mattress tags were torn off.

Post of the day!!

(so far)

36 posted on 01/11/2017 5:24:43 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

What part of private property don’t you understand?


37 posted on 01/11/2017 5:26:22 AM PST by thoughtomator (Purple: the color of sedition)
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To: DJ Frisat

I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.

- Robert A. Heinlein


38 posted on 01/11/2017 5:29:08 AM PST by Hugh the Scot ( Total War)
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To: southern rock

1. Did the officer have a warrant? Was he allowed to go on the man’s property after observing a ordinance violation that minor?
2. Leaving a car unsecured on your own property is not “inviting theft” any more than leaving a bicycle unlocked in your driveway would be. This ordinance is completely unAmerican.
3. This is why we have a market: if your car gets stolen, it will cost you money to get a new one. It may make your insurance premium go up. We should not criminalize every poor decision that may take up police resources. Your potential loss of money (and time and hassle) should be enough to disincetivize you from making decisions like this.
4. Do we really think that if the police have time to give tickets like this, they are so strapped for resources that we need to save them from investigating car thefts?
5. The people in this town who put up with living in a police state with a turd of a police chief are total losers in my opinion.
6. Would it surprise a lot of you to know that there are still plenty of places in America where cars and houses are left unlocked and thefts are rare? If that surprises you, I suggest that you want to look for a nicer place to live.


39 posted on 01/11/2017 5:29:26 AM PST by Stingray51
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To: Sir_Humphrey

It could be dangerous to leave an unattended car running if it’s not locked. I would think about that. But if he had locked it...well that’s different.


40 posted on 01/11/2017 5:30:07 AM PST by Savage Beast ( "You can--in fact must--shout 'Fire!' in a crowded theater. It just has to be the truth. J Goldberg)
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