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Reagan Invited Thatcher To Join The Top Secret F-117 Program
The Drive ^ | JANUARY 3, 2017 | TYLER ROGOWAY

Posted on 01/07/2017 4:51:35 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

Dubbed “Project Moonblower,” during the height of the F-117 Nighthawk’s secrecy in the mid 1980s, the Reagan administration, and even the Gipper himself, offered an invite to the UK Ministry of Defense to join the highly classified program.

In newly unsealed UK National Archives files obtained by The Guardian, Reagan’s offer to his good friend and Prime Minister of the UK Margaret Thatcher was casual as can be, with Reagan penning a diplomatic cable that stated in part:

“Dear Margaret, I am delighted to hear that you will be able to see Cap (Caspar Weinberger, the US defence secretary at the time) to discuss the special program I wrote you about… I look forward to receiving your reaction. Sincerely, Ron.” On the communique the word “stealth” was lightly written in pencil.

The “Iron Lady” wrote back to Reagan following the brief, stating:

“Dear Ron, I was immensely impressed by your splendid achievement: three cheers for America!

I was also very touched by the generosity of the offer of participation which Cap brought. It brings home once again who our real friends are… I am so much looking forward to seeing you in Tokyo. With warmest best wishes, yours sincerely, Margaret.”

The MoD ended up not taking up the DoD’s offer to participate directly in the program at the time. In a Ministry of Defense letter written in December of 1986 to Charles Powell, the Foreign Affairs Adviser to the Prime Minister, the decision and a description of its uneventful aftermath were made clear:

“Mr Weinberger has offered us a chance to purchase the current US aircraft but we have replied that we would not wish to actually buy hardware while the programme remains strictly black… Younger (the MoD defense secretary) raised the subject very briefly with Mr Weinberger this morning… just sufficiently to test whether Weinberger is disappointed at our reaction so far. He certainly does not seem to be.”

Nearly a decade later, when the F-117 had fully emerged from the “black” world, the UK was offered the jet once again. This time it would not be a baseline F-117A on the table but a heavily upgraded and anglicized F-117B, which itself would be based on the Navy’s F-117N/X Sea Hawk concept.

LOCKHEED RENDERINGS

The F-117N/X (among other titles) was used as a springboard for the UK F-117B offering.

The type was aimed at satisfying the Royal Air Force's Staff Target Air 425 deep-strike requirement that emerged following Desert Storm. The F-117B’s airframe would have been partially built by BAE, the jet’s avionics would feature some British components, the A model’s GE-F404 engines would be replaced with Eurojet EJ200 turbofans—the EF2000 Eurofighter’s powerplant. As found on the F-117N/X concept, new serrated non-grilled intakes would be featured as well as a revised exhaust, both of which were similar to those found on the B-2 Spirit. The wing would have less sweep and a greater span than the A model’s. Horizontal tailplanes would also be added aft of the wing. A bubble canopy would replace the A model’s sectioned one. The jet’s classically flat bottom would be recontoured in a constantly curving manner to make more room for weaponry and decrease its detectability to radars.

Combined, these features would give the F-117 more capability on multiple fronts, including better slow speed handling, shorter field performance and increased endurance. The B model in particular would have been able to carry nearly double the bomb load and would have featured double the mission radius of the A model.

Lockheed Martin bid the F-117N/X to the US Navy initially at a cost of $70 million per jet, based on a total production of 255 new airframes. If the UK jumped onboard it was claimed that this price could be decreased further, but considering the special configuration of the UK model, this may well have not ended up an accurate assessment.

LOCKHEED RENDERINGS

The revised F-117 2.0 of sorts would have been a striking looking aircraft.

The F-117N/X—and there are even subtypes of those designations—was part of the Navy’s mad scramble to come up with a replacement for the doomed A-12 Avenger program. In the end the F-117N/X would not be built. Instead the Navy chose to go the safest route possible and procure the Super Hornet as a one-size-fits-all strike-fighter solution.

Without the Navy onboard there was no chance the UK was going to pursue the type on its own. Instead it reinvested in the Tornado fleet and focused on fielding the EF2000 in the coming decade. Yet even after the decision not to buy the F-117B was made, the UK’s interest in acquiring its own stealthy combat aircraft quietly continued through the late 1990s and 2000s, most notably in the form of the BAE Replica and now the flying Taranis UCAV.

In 1999 during Operation Allied Force the F-117’s reputation for invincibility was shattered when a Serbian SAM crew shot down a Nighthawk with an SA-3 “Goa.” The circumstances for the shootdown were complicated, but at least to the public, the F-117 was proven “touchable” for the first time. In the end the type would not see another sub-model built, and the fleet of roughly 60 F-117s were retired under curious circumstances in 2008, although a handful are still plowing the skies over the Nellis Range Complex.

In many ways, a second F-117 variant in new configuration would have given Lockheed the opportunity to get the jet right. The A models were so experimental for their time, as was their underlying technology, that the ability to tweak the jet’s design and its subsystems could have resulted in an incredible combat machine, and built on the F-117A’s amazing legacy. On the other hand, it is unclear how long a facelift of a first generation stealth aircraft would remain viable. Operating the F-117 has never been a cheap affair, regardless of its sticker price.

CROWN COPYRIGHT

The Tornado GR4 and Europfighter Typhoon make up the backbone of RAF's combat punch today.

The Super Hornet and the Tornado have suited the wars of the last 20 years well, so in the long run the decision not to procure the F-117N/X/B seems to have been an acceptable one. And both the US Navy and the UK MoD will be getting their stealth aircraft finally in the form of the F-35B and F-35C, some 20 years after the F-117 2.0 was pitched for sale, and nearly 30 years after the Reagan administration invited the Royal Air Force entry into the then hyper-elite stealth combat aircraft secret society.

It’s yet another colorful and intriguing facet of a program that still fascinates the mind over forty years after the competition to build the first flying stealth aircraft officially begun.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aerospace; f117; reagan; thatcher
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1 posted on 01/07/2017 4:51:35 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Interesting article. I have always wondered why it carried an “F” designation when it is but a stealthy bomber. Also, do not understand why Wild Bill Clinton did not destroy the super secret wreckage which was quickly loaded up and carried off. I suspect its short service life had something to do with the shoot down. And why we were bombing our Serb friends over the muzzies puzzles me - somewhat.
I really enjoy your articles.


2 posted on 01/07/2017 5:11:34 AM PST by mcshot (The "Greatest Generation" would never have allowed the trashing of our Republic.)
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To: mcshot

The F designation did two things, it made fighter pilots happy, but most importantly it was a deception from the planes true purpose. That according to the book “Skunk Works” by Ben Rich. Highly recommend it if you haven’t read it.


3 posted on 01/07/2017 5:19:39 AM PST by DesertRhino
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To: mcshot

Numerous deceptions were detailed in the book. Amazing program.


4 posted on 01/07/2017 5:20:55 AM PST by DesertRhino
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To: sukhoi-30mki

A fascinating story. Thanks for posting it.


5 posted on 01/07/2017 5:27:56 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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To: mcshot

The shoot down was because Clinton sycophant, Gen. Weasily Clark, the Butcher of Belgrade, ordered the planes to fly the same route, the same altitude, the same time night after night. It was just a matter of time.

We were bombing the Christian Serbs because the muslims created a rouse by putting a bunch of its dead solders in civilian dress and arranged them so it looked like the Serbs slaughtered civilians. This ‘incident’ became Clinton’s ‘Cause Célèbre’ to distract from his political troubles and his incessant need to sell every military secret he could get his hands on to the Chinese (which is the reason the PLA is so militarily advanced today). So he started a war - much like the Democrats would like to do in the present day - only nuclear this time around.

The crashed F-117 was taken the to Chinese embassy which was then ‘mistakenly’ totally destroyed in a ‘errant’ bomb run over Belgrade. The Chinese protested.


6 posted on 01/07/2017 5:33:52 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: mcshot

The plane was counted as a “fighter” for the SALT treaty—the Soviets knew about the airframe before the American public. The most amazing thing about the F-117 is that it flew at all. It was an incredible feat of engineering, but the avionics were never up to date, maintenance costs were prohibitive, and they were never intended to sustain a long mission cycle.

The F-117 was a strange fusion of 1970’s air power wrapped in a fuselage of science fiction. It was a great breakthrough, but it had many limitations. Regardless, it will retain its place beside the SR-71 as one of the world’s most iconic airplanes.


7 posted on 01/07/2017 5:41:41 AM PST by antidisestablishment ( We few, we happy few, we basket of deplorables)
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To: DesertRhino

Really great book.


8 posted on 01/07/2017 5:43:15 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

ping


9 posted on 01/07/2017 5:44:11 AM PST by TYVets
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To: PIF
...ordered the planes to fly the same route, the same altitude, the same time night after night. It was just a matter of time...

That's the same policy that got a lot of B52s shot down in Nam and our men killed and captured. S.T.U.P.I.D.!!

10 posted on 01/07/2017 5:49:29 AM PST by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: Islander7
But it worked as expected this time - transfer of super secret tech directly to the Chinese - who found parts and pieces which they sent home. President Bill Clinton had a nice payday - not as big as expected, but it helped.

So it was not like Nam, as this time there was another motive. T.R.A. I.T.O.R and with the blessing of the complicit media.

The only place where you will learn anything about that war:
"NATO's War on Serbia" (Mar. 24, 1999)

11 posted on 01/07/2017 6:03:25 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I would no longer trust the UK defense on anything in top secret development.

Far too much Islamist infiltration.


12 posted on 01/07/2017 6:07:33 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: PIF

US pilot became friend with the man who shot him down
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-20209770

...Dale Zelko flew the F117 “stealth fighter” - a warplane so advanced that it was all but invisible to enemy radar.
But on the night of 27 March 1999 he was uncomfortable. Weather conditions meant the stealth fighters would not have their usual escort of “Prowler” electronic jamming planes or F16s firing anti-radar missiles.
“I’d never felt so strongly - if there was ever a night, a mission for an F117 to get shot down, it would be this one. I wasn’t surprised when it happened,” he says...


13 posted on 01/07/2017 6:28:37 AM PST by nosf40
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To: antidisestablishment
"The plane was counted as a “fighter” for the SALT treaty—"

Hmmm, so it was basically a medium-range bomber in the mold of the F-111.
Would that be close to true?

14 posted on 01/07/2017 7:05:52 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: mcshot
Also, do not understand why Wild Bill Clinton did not destroy the super secret wreckage which was quickly loaded up and carried off.

The self-same Will Bill Clinton who ordered them to fly the exact same route into the combat zone every night?

A less charitable person than I would think he wanted one shot down and promptly recovered by America's enemies.

As to Bombing Christian Serbs instead of muslims, well...

15 posted on 01/07/2017 7:43:13 AM PST by null and void (If you defy federal law, we deny federal funds.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

bmp


16 posted on 01/07/2017 7:50:25 AM PST by gattaca (Republicans believe every day is July 4, democrats believe every day is April 15. Ronald Reagan)
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To: 9YearLurker
I would no longer trust the UK defense on anything in top secret development.

Far too much Islamist infiltration.

Thank God that hasn't happened here!

17 posted on 01/07/2017 7:51:38 AM PST by null and void (If you defy federal law, we deny federal funds.)
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To: Psalm 73

Yes, it was strictly a bomber and no variant ever had any A2A capability. Flown only at night, it depended only on stealth and darkness for “defense.” The F-117 carried two weapons with a range of 930 NM. The ground-breaking stealth advantage was maintained until Clinton’s Serbian adventure.

It was pretty much a stand-alone program, and was considered a special purpose aircraft that defined an emerging class. Even after they left black, and were stationed at Holloman AFB, they remained a distinct unit deployed independently from the USAF expeditionary structure developed during the first Gulf War.

The F-22 inherited its stealth legacy with a modern airframe along with true fighter capabilities. The remaining F-117s are stored back at Tonopah (area 51) where they stand witness to the latest developmental aircraft that won’t see daylight for decades.


18 posted on 01/07/2017 7:59:35 AM PST by antidisestablishment ( We few, we happy few, we basket of deplorables)
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To: null and void

Sadly fair point...


19 posted on 01/07/2017 8:31:23 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Some interesting info on the F-117N/X:

http://www.f-117a.com/af117x.html


20 posted on 01/07/2017 9:01:11 AM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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