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To: HLPhat

Well, I read Mein Kampf back when I was a teenager, not because I admired Hitler but because I lived through the War when I was a small child, and I wanted to read some of the history first-hand.

What I found is that there is nothing “conservative” about Mein Kampf. Hitler was a murderous nutball. But unfortunately, Stalin and Mao were even worse, more cold-hearted and even more murderous than Hitler. We had to win that war, but FDR ended up throwing away as much as our troops had gained for him, when he decided to give half of Europe to his good pal Stalin.

Notice that now, as back then, that it’s not the real conservatives who want to give Israel to the Muslims and remove the Jews. Its the liberals—even foolish, self-hating liberal Jews.

Why are the Germans so eager to buy and read Mein Kampf? I don’t think Germany is especially Nazi-like at the moment. I think they just want to read a historically important book that they haven’t been allowed to buy or visibly read for the past 70 years.


10 posted on 01/05/2017 9:46:49 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

For further edification on why native Germans seem to be fascinated with Mein Kampf, try reading the excellent analysis “The Psychology of Mass Fascism” by Wilhelm Reich - Amazon has a Kindle edition for only $11.


19 posted on 01/05/2017 9:52:34 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Cicero
You may be on to something here. I have German friends who were astonished that an American could admire Rommel as a clever warrior. They have been prohibited from even learning about those men, good or bad.

I have friends in the UK who also admire many of the WWII Germans, just for their military prowess. The Brits have the only working Tiger & King Tiger tanks in the world; and, they cherish them right along side the Spitfire.

28 posted on 01/05/2017 10:07:52 AM PST by GingisK
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To: Cicero

>>Why are the Germans so eager to buy and read Mein Kampf?

Well, Hitler praises Martin Luther in it.

That might be a factor.

If the Bavarian schools are like the ones under the purview of the LCMS in the USA - the subject was never addressed in the curriculum and... “those who fail to learn from the past ___________ it”.


30 posted on 01/05/2017 10:10:47 AM PST by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: Cicero

Tell people they can’t have something and it makes them want it more.


42 posted on 01/05/2017 10:36:01 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Cicero

It’s probably the Muslims buying it.


43 posted on 01/05/2017 10:37:39 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Cicero
>>a historically important book that they haven’t been allowed to buy or visibly read for the past 70 years.

Evidently confiscating the anti-semitic Lutheran text referenced by Julius Streicher didn’t prevent those ideas from being recycled.

The danger of confiscating and banning (or negligently ignoring) books and ideas is that it makes it difficult to educate people about those ideas and contradict/neutralize them;  and this is especially true when someone like Martin Luther is quoted routinely - without ever tempering that affirmation and praise in the reality of his other works, written late in life that are hidden from view.

Who will teach the Germans/Muslims/Lutherans how to contradict what no teacher has ever been allowed to read or discuss?

What goes on in the mind of a child who's been indoctrinated to regurgitate every line of Luther's Chatechism - who then discover Luther's other works on the internet?  

Personally, I think Mein Kampf and it's inspirational Lutheran literature should've been an open part of the curriculum in Germany, and elsewhere.

And I think Jefferson would agree:

"...who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world, and through all time;

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that it is time enough for the rightful purposes of civil government, for its officers to interfere when principles break out into overt acts against peace and good order; and finally, that truth is great and will prevail if left to herself, that she is the proper and sufficient antagonist to error, and has nothing to fear from the conflict, unless by human interposition disarmed of her natural weapons, free argument and debate, errors ceasing to be dangerous when it is permitted freely to contradict them. "
 
"I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD ETERNAL HOSTILITY TO EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN"
--The Virginia Act For Establishing Religious Freedom
--Thomas Jefferson, 1786

 

46 posted on 01/05/2017 11:25:43 AM PST by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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