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Democratic Strategist Not Sure Chicago Torture Video of Disabled White Man Constitutes a Hate Crime
MediaIte ^ | 01/05/2017 | Justin Baragona

Posted on 01/05/2017 7:12:52 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Tonight, CNN’s Don Lemon gathered a panel to discuss the story of a disturbing Facebook Live video out of Chicago in which a group of young black adults broadcast their torture of a young white mentally disabled man. While holding their victim hostage, they cut his scalp, burned him with cigarettes and kicked him, all while shouting “f*ck Donald Trump! F*ck white people!”

At the beginning of the conversation, Lemon turned to CNN political commentator and Democratic strategist Symone Sanders. Stating that he can’t say it’s a hate crime because police are still investigating, he asked the former Bernie Sanders campaign spox her thoughts.

After calling it “sickening,” Sanders gave the following observation: “But I’m gonna say something that’s probably not very popular — we cannot callously go about classifying things as a hate crime.”

After wondering if it were hate for Trump or white people, she expanded on he point. “If we start going around and anytime someone says or does something egregious or bad and sickening in sense,” she noted. “In connection with the president-elect Donald Trump or even President Obama for that matter because of their political leanings, that’s slippery territory. That is not a hate crime.”

Fellow panelist Alice Stewart was next to weigh in and while agreeing with Sanders the crime was “sickening,” she also said that she “hoped it was classified” as a hate crime.

Later on in the discussion, Sanders would argue that much of the rhetoric of the presidential election may have had an impact on the attackers and other troubled young people, which would draw some condemnation from Lemon himself who explained that they probably don’t even watch the news.

If Sanders seems familiar, it’s probably because you remember her mockingly exclaiming “Oh my goodness, poor white people” during an on-air conversation about a Trump supporter beaten by a mob. She’s also said the Democratic Party doesn’t “need white people leading” it right now and the election of Trump put “white supremacy into the White House.”

Watch the exchange above, via CNN.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hatecrime; racism; torture
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To: PapaBear3625
"Not advised. Cities would burn, and whites would be murdered, and the perps of the fake video would have some responsibility for it."

Curtailing speech for fear of offending criminals is no different than the left wanting to criminalize offending muslims.

41 posted on 01/05/2017 7:52:59 AM PST by 10mm
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To: tired&retired

“Symone Sanders: “Trump Supporter Beaten In Chicago Got What White People Deserve For Centuries Of Black Slavery” “

She was never a slave, nor does it look like that fat cow has ever missed a meal.


42 posted on 01/05/2017 7:55:13 AM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: lurk
Agreed. I've never quite understood the "hate" designation. If someone is robbed, or assaulted, a crime is committed. The motivations do not matter. If I'm robbed because the guy hasn't eaten all week, is that any different than if I'm robbed simply for being white in the wrong neighborhood? I've still been robbed, the motivations of the perpetrator don't matter.

Besides, I know, I mean I am 100%, bet-the-farm, make the statement and drop the mic, certain that if it were 4 white kids that assaulted a black guy it would be instantaneously labeled a hate crime and that assessment would never be questioned again.

43 posted on 01/05/2017 7:56:18 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: SeekAndFind

EVERY crime is a hate crime. Period.

Crime? Hate crime? Same thing.

Does anybody honestly think this group of Blacks had anything but hate in their hearts for this unfortunate man?

What is the difference between a crime and a hate crime? Nothing!


44 posted on 01/05/2017 7:56:26 AM PST by upchuck (Obama once thought that he belonged to the ages. Now he belongs in the rubbish bin. h/t D.Greenfield)
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To: Verbosus

I only have the link to the website where I quoted it from.

My previous post #33 gave the link.

Here is the source:

http://spinzon.com/symone-sanders-trump-supporter-beaten-chicago-got-white-people-deserve-centuries-black-slavery/

I am in no way affiliated with the site. I merely googled her name to see if I recognized her and the quote came up with the picture.

Here it is in the context of the website:
“I just have to emphasize one thing – my position on the incident does not derive from the fact that I’m a black person, on the contrary; but we have to face the truth and the only truth here is that white people have systematically oppressed and enslaved black people for more than 400 years. And I don’t know what has to be done to heal those wounds, but the way I see it – one traffic light beating is a good start, because it pays back hundreds of thousands of lynches, crucifies, hangings, mutilations and other gruesome ways in which white people toyed with black slaves in the past. We as a race deserve payback for centuries of black slavery and if stopping white people in their cars and pulling them out and beating them up in the middle of the street is the way to accomplish that, it’s better than nothing,” Sanders opined.


45 posted on 01/05/2017 7:57:00 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: lurk
Symone Sanders, currently a Democratic strategist and political commentator on CNN. Following the lead of Obama, Symone is using the rae card...making herself racist..." She’s also said the Democratic Party doesn’t “need white people leading” it right now and the election of Trump put “white supremacy into the White House.”...Ms. Sanders can claim responsibility for using the phrase White Supremacy to further her skewed notion of what constitutes a "hate Crime"....

.....that Symone is a racist is no suprise, that the woman would not see the crime for what it is....a crime of hate and calling it something else makes her also mendacious.

46 posted on 01/05/2017 7:57:34 AM PST by yoe (USA do not let BHO further divide this nation as he "hangs around.....")
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To: SeekAndFind
Would a video of 4 white people torturing a disabled black man constitute a hate crime? You bet your sweet @$$ it would.

Thus, the inverse must be true. Symone Sanders is a moron. So is Don Lemon.

47 posted on 01/05/2017 8:02:17 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (The future doesn't belong to the fainthearted. It belongs to the brave. - - Ronaldus Magnus Reagan)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Democrats sell victim ideology. If a Democratic special interest group is the victimizer then it undoes the entire victim structure. Democrats can never allow their protected victim class to lose their status as victims. Regardless of how blatantly guilty their victim class is of “hatred” they must deny, deny, deny.

We must do away with the “hatred” crimes. Either something is a crime or it is not. No one can determine why the crime was committed or if it was hatred that motivated the attacker. Oh, sure, they might be a member of the KKK, a Democratic organization, btw, but was their crime motivated by hatred? It might just as well have been motivated by sadism. They aren’t the same thing.


48 posted on 01/05/2017 8:15:38 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: lurk

Bingo!
We have a winner!
The determination by a Democratic Strategist of a Hate Crime is ridiculous. The “Progressive” mindset is that of victim. Since those that support Trump are not victims, but perpetrators it cannot constitute ‘Hate’ to act out against the enemy.


49 posted on 01/05/2017 8:24:42 AM PST by griswold3
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To: SeekAndFind

Why didnt she get asked that if the races were reversed, would it be a hate crime?


50 posted on 01/05/2017 8:26:02 AM PST by Uncle Sam 911
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To: SeekAndFind

The media was hesitant to call this a hate crime even though it meets the definition precisely.


51 posted on 01/05/2017 8:27:41 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: SeekAndFind

Absolutely, positively a hate crime. To not call it as it is, is an absolute slap in the face to justice and another dose of gasoline into the racial fire.


52 posted on 01/05/2017 8:43:03 AM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: From The Deer Stand

there are no “hate” crimes. You can hate all you want, the moment you commit a crime it’s a crime. I hate the “hate crime” label.


53 posted on 01/05/2017 8:48:39 AM PST by CJ Wolf (just a conspiracy theory, no facts behind the above post.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Torture - scalping - beating - made to drink toilet bowl water - forced to utter filth . . . . SIMPLE ASSAULT ????

Are you f*#king kidding me ??????

I’m absolutely stunned.

Snoot


54 posted on 01/05/2017 8:56:09 AM PST by snooter55 (People may doubt what you say, but they will always believe what you do)
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To: SeekAndFind

This also wasn’t considered a hate crime.

10th year anniversary.

Channon Gail Christian, 21, and Hugh Christopher Newsom, Jr., 23, were from Knoxville, Tennessee. They were kidnapped the evening of January 6, 2007 when Christian’s vehicle was carjacked, and taken to a rental house, where both of them were raped, tortured, and murdered. Five people were arrested and charged in the case. The grand jury indicted four of the suspects on counts of capital murder, robbery, kidnapping, rape, and theft, while a fifth was indicted on federal charges of carjacking

.https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=the+christian-+newsom+murders&&view=detail&mid=3E89E1A4D3CC309616A53E89E1A4D3CC309616A5&rvsmid=8E504D41E8CB8366BFF18E504D41E8CB8366BFF1&fsscr=0&FORM=VDFSRV


55 posted on 01/05/2017 10:32:13 AM PST by Gator113 (I use liberal tears in my milkshake ~DRAIN THE SWAMP~ ~ LOCK HER UP ~ ~DRAIN THE SWAMP~)
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To: LouisianaJoanof Arc

That is Obama’s Legacy.


56 posted on 01/05/2017 10:36:20 AM PST by Gator113 (I use liberal tears in my milkshake ~DRAIN THE SWAMP~ ~ LOCK HER UP ~ ~DRAIN THE SWAMP~)
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To: LouisianaJoanof Arc

Barky has set the US back 150 years.


Yup. This is the only legacy of Obama. Inflamed racial hatred in the black community.


57 posted on 01/05/2017 10:40:52 AM PST by samtheman (I REALLY hope Trump reads FR)
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To: SeekAndFind

0bama and his regime are the most racially divisive people in my lifetime.

5.56mm


58 posted on 01/05/2017 10:45:03 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: M Kehoe

Same with religion.

5.56mm


59 posted on 01/05/2017 10:47:26 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: tired&retired

Thx


60 posted on 01/05/2017 12:59:56 PM PST by goodnesswins (Say hello to President Trump)
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