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Germany warns Facebook over hateful posts, igniting free speech debate
Fox News.com ^ | January 4, 2017 | Don Snyder

Posted on 01/05/2017 5:23:21 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Germany is taking on Facebook, threatening criminal action against the world’s biggest social media company if it doesn’t stem the swelling tide of racist postings.

Entries such as “gas the Jews” are examples of the repugnant postings... , said ... spokesman for the German Ministry of Justice.

“Facebook doesn’t [react] unless they get complaints, or don’t remove it fast enough,”... “...is not just racist comment, it is a violation of Germany’s criminal code,” he said. “Facebook can be held criminally liable for users’ illegal hate speech.”

German law prohibits speech that denies the Holocaust, disparages minorities, or insults public figures. ... the government asked Facebook two years ago to... filtering hate postings. Germany is now demanding a meaningful response..., or it will take legal action against the social media giant that has 1.8 billion users worldwide. Germany is asking Google and Twitter [the same.]

Facebook denies claims that it's not taking down expressions of hate quickly enough. It has hired a German technology company to monitor and delete content that is illegal in Germany and other European countries. Six hundred people, fluent in several languages, scan the site daily.

Facebook claims inappropriate posts represent a small fraction... Facebook is taking down 46%,...YouTube10%, and Twitter 1%....

“Much of the hate stems from anti-foreigner and anti-refugee sentiments -snip-

Malte Lehming, ... editor at Der Tagesspiegel, Berlin’s largest newspaper, has a different perspective on Germany’s proposed crackdown on social media hate speech. ...already too many restrictions on free speech in Germany and that pressuring Facebook won’t work.

... how Germany could stop a Canadian citizen who tweets something that violates German law, but not Canadian law.... no international law with standards that have universal application. -snip-

...Facebook is not responsible for the hateful attitudes of some ... -snip-.”

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: censorship; facebook; freespeech; germany; invaders; islam; merkel; refugees; stasi; twitter; youtube
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The Germans are using rare or faked anti-semitic postings as a justification to eliminate all free speech contrary to their liking.

Posts about the Angela Merkel policy of importing millions of barbaric 3rd world scum, Christian hating and German hating scum are the ones the government desperately aims to suppress.

Here's the answer- They need to get flooded with messages and posts from Facebook, Twitter and Youtube from outside of Germany. Particularly Twitter, they will not be able to control it. International social media needs to reeducate and deliver real news to those inside of Germany.

1 posted on 01/05/2017 5:23:21 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
Exactly: Any criticism of Merkel and her policy of uncontrolled mass immigration can only be motivated by racism, so it is obviously hate speech that must be banned…
2 posted on 01/05/2017 5:27:22 AM PST by cartan
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

......”Entries such as “gas the Jews” are examples of the repugnant postings”

This is complete BS. That is likely 1 in a million entries and may have been written by a government agent to make FB look bad.

The entries they object to:

savages grabbing their daughter

being afraid to walk in the street after dark.

Refugees crapping in their garden.

And why the refugees are getting paid more than they are in free benefits after they worked for 40 years.


3 posted on 01/05/2017 5:28:44 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ( '45 will be the best ever.)
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Germany appeasing Islam while threating speech...


4 posted on 01/05/2017 5:30:30 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

We do not have to allow people to urge others to commit criminal acts like jihad or killing Jews, but once we open the door to ANY other type of censorship, the left will drive its truck through it.


5 posted on 01/05/2017 5:32:26 AM PST by Socon-Econ
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

I could see the new immigrant muslim population spouting anti-semitism.

I could also see liberals from Berkeley or Harvard spouting anti-semitism.

How is the German government going to know the origins/host country of the poster?


6 posted on 01/05/2017 5:32:34 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The COM-Left is saddened by the death of the Communist dictator Fidel Castro. No surprise there.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

“prohibits speech that denies the Holocaust, disparages minorities, or insults public figures”

Good God, Germany sounds as bad as 70 years ago.

I hope my cousin doesn’t utter the wrong words.

BTW, I love the “disparaging ‘minorities’” specification. Guess I was right in my assumption that anything attacking white Euro Germans (e.g.) would be OK. Just not if they’re non-white.


7 posted on 01/05/2017 5:34:34 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Gene Eric

Twitter is the answer. Americans and others need to send them tweets with links to the news that is not being reported inside of Germany.

Links to websites that define the depth of their looming problem of unassimilated hating infestation.

Links to islam and what will become of their country if this continues.


8 posted on 01/05/2017 5:35:38 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ( '45 will be the best ever.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

“the hate stems from anti-foreigner and anti-refugee sentiment”

OK, again with the “words are worse than open violence” PC garbage. Open violence applying to those “foreigners” and “refugees”.


9 posted on 01/05/2017 5:36:24 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
As Berlin Burns.....

......Angela Dances!


10 posted on 01/05/2017 5:40:18 AM PST by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: a fool in paradise

I assumed that they know where the messages originate, especially on FB, perhaps they don’t.

I see it as an opportunity to help them turn things around. Social media could cause their policies to fail. Very definitely. It’s the only loop hole left that may stop them from destroying Germany and taking down the rest of Europe with them.

Clearly they have little free speech. The press has their hands tied, assuming there are a few non-liberal papers.

The German government is afraid of social media. Informed people will revolt and not tolerate their own demise.


11 posted on 01/05/2017 5:44:54 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ( '45 will be the best ever.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Right, it’s illogical. The article mentions how words on social media MIGHT incite violence. There has been none. Writing the truth on social media MIGHT cause people to vote their insane refugee policies out, that’s their problem.

All the while, real violence from refugees against them is tolerated and disregarded. It is unaccountable. They even blame themselves.

Maybe imaginary pretend projected possible violence Trumps refugee rapes, assaults, fires, murder, and terrorism.


12 posted on 01/05/2017 5:52:00 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ( '45 will be the best ever.)
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To: Vaquero

That’s funny. You may enjoy this one.

This is really well done and needs to be seen.

The Real Housewives of ISIIS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GccW3k8I6Ec


13 posted on 01/05/2017 5:55:53 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ( '45 will be the best ever.)
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“prohibits speech which...insults public figures”

Enforced selectively of course. The German press mocked George W. Bush mercilessly with full impunity, however a German comic was recently prosecuted for telling a joke about the Turkish President. Which is why the government, any government, shouldn't be in the business of regulating speech.

14 posted on 01/05/2017 6:01:06 AM PST by apillar
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Free speech? ?

Free speech?

We doon need no stinking free speech.


15 posted on 01/05/2017 6:04:32 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Merkle is a bitch in heat for islamist terrorists. She begs for it up the a$$.

Just trying to ensure the First Ammendment TRUMPS totalitarianism.


16 posted on 01/05/2017 6:16:49 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Higher Taxes, Less Freedom, More Bureaucracy! What could possibly go wrong?)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

There is no right to free speech in any country in Europe much less Germany.


17 posted on 01/05/2017 6:19:11 AM PST by Snowybear
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

The “expert” for policing hate speech in Germany:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anetta_Kahane


18 posted on 01/05/2017 6:30:58 AM PST by SolidWood
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To: Snowybear

We can circumvent that thru Social Media. It’s reached a point where they are unable to control the free flow of information into their country.

They are subject to arrest, fines and incarceration in some of the other European countries for basically insinuating that homeland-hating migrants are a problem.


19 posted on 01/05/2017 6:33:31 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ( '45 will be the best ever.)
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To: SolidWood

So she destroyed Sweden and has now moved on to Germany.

Anetta Kahane says:

“You have to really change the policy of immigration inside Europe. This is very important, you have to adopt the educational system and adapt all the self understanding of the states. They are not anymore only white or only Swedish or only Portuguese or only German. They are multicultural places in the world.”

Why is this “very important” Anetta Kahane?

There also seem to be a particular obsession with the idea of deconstructing the nation state of Sweden, have you been paying attention to this fact? Sweden is constantly brought up when discussion takes place in this context. Why? Same as Barbara Spectre… who sits in Sweden, with state funding, doing her “good work” to destroy Sweden and Europe from within.

“They are not anymore only Swedish” isn’t that it Anetta Kahane?

This is the description text from YouTube:

Anetta Kahane (see bio at metapedia) is a typical left-wing Jew straight from the tradition of Marx, Trotsky, Freud, Rosa Luxemburg, Marcuse, Horkheimer, Adorno, Max Shachtman, Sidney Hook, Irving Kristol, Norman Podhoretz, Abraham Foxman etc.

Jewish leftists wants to de-Europize Europe.


20 posted on 01/05/2017 6:37:23 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ( '45 will be the best ever.)
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