Posted on 12/28/2016 8:45:29 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee
President Obama has created two new national monuments in southeastern Utah and southern Nevada totalling 1.64 million acres, despite intense opposition from American Indians living in the area.
Obama created the Bears Ears and Gold Butte national monuments using his powers under the Antiquities Act, adding to the 265 million acres of lands the president has already put under stricter federal regulation.
The White House set aside 1.47 million acres of land to create the controversial Bears Ears monument, which has been opposed by local Navajo tribal members despite being supported by tribal officials.
Todays actions will help protect this cultural legacy and will ensure that future generations are able to enjoy and appreciate these scenic and historic landscapes, Obama said in a statement Wednesday.
The Interior Department also notes future drilling and mining activities will be banned in the region, which puts into jeopardy the fate of Energy Fuels Resources, the largest private employer in the area. The company has uranium mining claims in the region. . .
(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...
I was merely pointing out that it was Congress which passed the 1906 Antiquities Act which is the enabling legislation Presidents use to create National Monuments.
So yes, any National Monument has been created under the authorization of Congress, legislated in 1906 and since amended.
My further point is that the process is greatly ABUSED by Bill Clinton and Barack Obama who create absolutely vast “National Monuments” going far far beyond the original limited purposes of the law.
Congress needs to clean up this mess, if it will.
With all the “prime” sites (National Parks etc.) long ago protected, the new National Monuments (post-1980s let’s say) have less and less rationale, even as Clinton and Obama scooped up absolutely vast amounts of acreage.
Just for example, in addition to the 1.6 million acres that Obozo just locked away, when Clinton created the Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument in Utah he locked away nearly TWO MILLION acres from energy development (e.g. coal), etc., just for an example. This is an area larger than the state of Delaware, with major energy resources.
This is no distinct “monument” or specific historic site under the original intention of the Act — it is a vast acreage which the federal govt has locked away. I’m all for the National Parks in the most scenic sites of the continent, but to continue to lock up ever vaster acreage of (generally) far less significant terrain is simply unreasonable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Staircase-Escalante_National_Monument
With all the “prime” sites (National Parks etc.) long ago protected, the new National Monuments (post-1980s let’s say) have less and less rationale, even as Clinton and Obama scooped up absolutely vast amounts of acreage.
Just for example, in addition to the 1.6 million acres that Obozo just locked away, when Clinton created the Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument in Utah he locked away nearly TWO MILLION acres from energy development (e.g. coal), etc., just for an example. This is an area larger than the state of Delaware, with major energy resources.
This is no distinct “monument” or specific historic site under the original intention of the Act — it is a vast acreage which the federal govt has locked away. I’m all for the National Parks in the most scenic sites of the continent, but to continue to lock up ever vaster acreage of (generally) far less significant terrain is simply unreasonable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Staircase-Escalante_National_Monument
Then right you are; however, Congress can’t undo what Clinton and Obama have done; sadly.
But they can, if they have the will and votes (doubtful) — they could amend or replace the Act with legislation incorporating a specific list of approved National Monuments, leaving out all or most of the acreage added by Clinton and Obama. I’m not saying this is likely to happen, but it is what should happen.
This crap that both wee barry and Slick Willie did, were by EO and the Congress has absolutely NO power, NONE AT ALL, to nullify/correct an EO!
Can Trump overturn this?
Say what you may of Reagan, but there was never any doubt that his heart was in the right place. He only wanted what was best for America and her people, and he acted accordingly as best he could. On some matters, he failed. No president is going to be perfect. But those were the eight best years of America in the past half century, and nobody since has come close.
Reagan's heart was in the right place. Can that be said of any of his successors? I can't honestly say that it can be.
What do you mean by clean coal? Anthracite?
Congress has the power, all National Monuments are designated under the 1906 Antiquities Act, which Congress legislated and can amend or repeal if they choose.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiquities_Act
President Trump could also order his Dept of Interior to change the specifics of what has been designated as National Monuments, although I’m sure the envirowhackos would try to tie it up in the courts for a while.
But Congress passing new legislation which Pres. Trump signed into law would be pretty iron-clad, although just about anything can be challenged in the courts for a while.
btw, while National Monuments are not part of the EO process (they have their own specific enabling legislation), ANY Executive Order can be over-ridden by Congress if they can pass new legislation and over-ride a Presidential veto. In this case, since a new president will be in office, Congress could choose to over-ride any of Obama’s EO’s with legislation if they could get Trump to sign it into law. But it will be (generally) much easier to address past EOs simply with new EOs by Pres. Trump. No need for Congress to work through the legislative process if a matter can be handled by EO. Nothing protects past EOs from being replaced by a new EO from a new President.
You blast W, with some reason, but in an absurd way, yet laud Reagan in a way close to idolatry...sans real hard cold facts and with excuses.
ME? I look at ALL of it unbiased, with a strong leaning on the facts, and not in "awe" of any of them.
W worse than Slick Willie; even worse than Obama? You really need a good dose of reality smacking you upside your head!
Of course Obama was on the docket to be president; it's why he was "bred". I'm truly not into tinfoil, but the whole Obama thing stinks of what would ordinarily be labeled "conspiracy theory". It's all just SO damned "pat"; like something out of a book or bad movie.
Let "them" deal in that. We're supposed to be better.
When W tried to undo Clinton's crap sandwich re the coal into a NATIONAL MONUMENT, it went to SCOTUS and was denied.
And though the GOP has control of both Houses, now, fat chance that they will do what you claim they can ( no they can't; they can't undo EOs! ), nor shall SCOTUS, even when Trump gets a conservative replacement for Scalia. Would that what you claim were true.
I’m “better”, but you are the hysteric. ;^)
We’ll pray for a miracle.
A case is sent up to the SC and President Trump’s 5 newly filled SC seats rule in his/our favor!
: )
SCOTUS has its own history of being wrong and eventually overturned. Considering the way these lands were taken from the Navajo might portend a different mindset, especially after the Republican Senate has a real chance of eclipsing 60 in 18. Keeping in mind that it looks like Kennedy may only be in it for one more year because of his skinny hiring of “a” clerk instead of many. Ginsburg will be 84 this next year and Breyer will be 79.
Add to it, with the right litigator, all things are possible. Time is on our side on this one as is the hopeful neutering of the BLM.
BS congress could pass a law undoing all of it.
I remember them trying to install a nationwide water control agency. Basically the ‘basins’ of every water source in this country would come under control of a River Master and land and uses for miles around any water source could be tyrannically controlled.
What? Follow the Constitution?
A simple question: If the Feds control and finance such vast tracts of land at our expense, why CANNOT Congress defund this odumbo land grab?
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