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Democrats ponder the unthinkable: 60 GOP senate seats in 2018
Hot Air.com ^ | December 20, 2016 | JAZZ SHAW

Posted on 12/20/2016 1:33:48 PM PST by Kaslin

So the Democrats are largely down in the dumps after yesterday’s Electoral College results. Not only did Trump get certified as the next POTUS, but Hillary Clinton actually lost ground in the total EC vote spread. But on the bright side, the worst is over, right? The bandage has been ripped off and the healing can begin. I mean… it can’t actually get any worse than this, can it?

Perhaps our liberal friends shouldn’t pick this week to quit sniffing glue because it’s just possible that it might. The battle for the midterms will be gearing up in earnest as soon as we sober up from the New Years parties and the writing on the wall looks pretty ugly. It may seem unthinkable, but there is a possible path in front of us which could see the Dems winding up with so few seats in the Senate that they couldn’t even muster a filibuster. (Assuming we don’t nuke it next month.) Stuart Rothenberg at the Washington Post describes just such a doomsday scenario for the regional party currently lurking in a handful of coastal cities.

The GOP’s strong 2016 election showing raises a crucial question: Do Republicans have any chance of netting eight Senate seats – and a filibuster-proof majority – in 2018?

The upcoming Senate class is unusually unbalanced. Only eight Republican Senate seats are up for election in 2018, compared to 25 Democratic seats (including two independents who caucus with the Democrats). Ten of those Democratic seats are in states carried by Donald Trump.

By any measure, Democrats are on the defensive in the next fight for Senate control. A three-seat Democratic midterm gain, which would give the party a majority, looks virtually impossible given the seats up this cycle.

What Stuart is talking about here is the same theory which Ed Morrissey explored back at the beginning of the month. It’s far from a certainty, but unless there’s a major change in liberal electoral fortunes, the Democrats will be slugging it out in some decidedly unfriendly territory in as many as a dozen races.

Bear in mind that Democrats usually do better in presidential cycles than midterms, thanks to the dynamics of turnout, and one starts to sense the disaster Sabato sees looming. There is little chance of Democrats losing the deep-blue coastal states or Minnesota, especially with Amy Klobuchar defending her seat. After that, though, Democrats have a large number of seats that look at serious risk, including Indiana, Montana, North Dakota, Wisconsin again, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and probably Florida. All of these states have Republican legislatures and went for Trump in this election. Picking up those eight bring Republicans up to 60, and that’s without considering what might happen in Virginia, West Virginia, and Maine — where Trump did stronger than expected and which is represented by an independent (Angus King) who caucuses with Democrats.

Here’s the map we’re dealing with:

senate-2018-map

Even some of the seats Ed marks off as “safe” for the Democrats aren’t quite as safe as they once were. For one thing, the Dems’ map relies on Wisconsin and Michigan staying in their columns. Yes, Donald Trump’s margins of victory in those states was small, but a win is a win and it was a statewide race. Plus, Democratic turnout in the midterms is, as Ed noted, always lower to begin with. So could this actually happen?

As Rothenberg reminds us, it’s rare when the party of the sitting president picks up eight or more seats in a midterm, but it has happened. (Granted, not since 1934, but it’s been done.) And while 2016 was something of a unicorn in terms of electoral history, with Trump still in office, will whatever magic drove him through that blue wall still be brewing away? Plus, of the last three times that the Senate swung eight or more seats in a midterm – 1986, 1994 and 2014 – two of the three went in the GOP’s favor. That likely ties in more with the fact that Republicans do better in the midterms than the influence of which party held the White House.

In the end I think it all comes down to Trump. If he can deliver on any decent number of his promises and work with the GOP leadership to get some conservative reforms in place, his voters may just turn up again, even in the blue wall states. Of course, that also depends on how strongly he chooses to get out there and campaign for the Republican challengers and push them from the bully pulpit. Will he be willing to do that? He wasn’t exactly treated kindly by a lot of the power players in the party these past two years and he made his disdain for the establishment quite clear. But President Trump may prove to be a very different beast than candidate Trump (something we’re already seeing in his cabinet picks) so you never know. I certainly wouldn’t write off the possibility of 60 or even 62 seats given how that map looks.

Oh, and before I forget… Merry Christmas, Democrats! May your holiday be filled with love, joy and acceptance. And a lot of booze. And don’t throw out that tube of airplane glue just yet…

donkeys



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2018election; 2018midterms; 2018senate; demonrats; senatemajority
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To: SouthernerFromTheNorth

The democrats best bet Is to jettison the left, merge with the Rino’s and form a centrist party. Then work with the Conservative party to destroy the left. Then once we go through a few cycles go back to republican and democrat.


41 posted on 12/20/2016 2:19:47 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Too. Much. Winning.)
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To: central_va

well 2018 is another midterm election. 33 US Senate seats are up for reelections


42 posted on 12/20/2016 2:19:55 PM PST by Kaslin (Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

I am undecided as to whether it helps the Va. GOP for Tim Kaine to run for re-election in 2018. He seems tainted to me but we’ll have to see how the 115th session plays out.


43 posted on 12/20/2016 2:24:30 PM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: All
2016 map exhibits the Republican Party expansion.
2014 map is Congressional results when the Democrats got slaughtered.

2016 map was better than we could have ever imagined.

44 posted on 12/20/2016 2:25:08 PM PST by Liz (W W W W W W w w w w w)
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To: Sybeck1

McCaskill will not be able to masquerade as anything but a strong progressive, even though she never talks that way when she’s in Missouri. Her voting record will sink her, as long as she gets a decent opponent.


45 posted on 12/20/2016 2:26:06 PM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: Sybeck1

McCaskill will not be able to masquerade as anything but a strong progressive, even though she never talks that way when she’s in Missouri. Her voting record will sink her, as long as she gets a decent opponent.


46 posted on 12/20/2016 2:26:21 PM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: TomGuy

I think this is the real reason Shumer was crying on the floor.


47 posted on 12/20/2016 2:26:40 PM PST by Sertorius (A hayseed with no Greek and dam^ proud of it)
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To: TomGuy

In addition to the 23 dems seats, there are two other so-called Independent liberals running for re-election....
Angus King in Maine and Bernie Sanders in Vermont.


48 posted on 12/20/2016 2:29:47 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 8, 2016..... Donald Trump schlongs Hillary Clinton. 306 Electoral Votes)
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To: TomGuy

To pick up 15, the most likely path I can see is:

* All the states Trump won (FL, IN, MI, MO, MT, ND, OH, PA, WV, WI)

* The close states that have demographics in large areas that lean Trump (ME, MN, VA)

That gets us to 65. A strong candidate like Susana Martinez in New Mexico can get us to 66 - but where for 67? I see a few possibilities:

* IF Bernie Sanders decides to leave the Senate, whether for a Governor run or retirement from politics, Vermont has an independent streak that we can try to exploit despite its liberal bent (Sanders is pretty much unbeatable) - I’d say that would be the best bet, but requires a lot of help

* New York might be a fringe target IF upstate turnout is enormous combined with a depressed NYC urbanite turnout

* Some other coastal fluke?


49 posted on 12/20/2016 2:30:30 PM PST by SouthernerFromTheNorth
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To: angry elephant
Maybe Trump can deport some of the illegal Somali muslims from Minnesota.

You mean -
Maybe Trump can deport all Muslims from Minnesota. And all Muslims in every state in the Union!
Send them back to their tents in the Mid-East or send them to Australia.

50 posted on 12/20/2016 2:32:27 PM PST by Mr Apple ( Let's play.........Hide the Muslim: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59J0i3LNoY8)
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To: Kaslin

I came up with the answer earlier today: Give the Liberal Progressive Democrats an incentive to move to California. It’s already gone, and consolidating them there would probably turn several salvagable states from blue to red.

They’d love it there because it has all their favorite stuff: drugs, porn, celebs, warm weather, and lots of brown people speaking Espanol to make them feel good and trim their lawns.

Look at it as draining the swamp, only we’d be draining the red and purple states, with the end of the hose stuck somewhere in the San Francisco Bay.


51 posted on 12/20/2016 2:42:29 PM PST by bigbob (We have better coverage than Verizon - Can You Hear Us Now?)
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To: MNJohnnie
And the obstruction, hysteric in the Dem base are currently doing everything they can to help make this GOP dream reality.

That is my thinking - they are pulling such crazy stuff that at least a few of the saner Democratic voters must be reconsidering. If they keep up their idiotic ploys for the next two years (one can only hope), they might get slaughtered again in 2018.

52 posted on 12/20/2016 2:47:29 PM PST by Oatka
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To: Kaslin

Too easy.

53 posted on 12/20/2016 2:50:58 PM PST by seawolf101 (Member LES DEPLORABLES)
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To: Oatka

I think 2018 hindges on a combination of things. Part of it is the insanity from the Dem but it also has to be matched with good government from Trump and the GOP. I am not worried about Trump, I am a little worried about the US House and totally worried about the GOP-E morons in the US Senate.


54 posted on 12/20/2016 2:52:29 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Trump discriminates against non-successful people.)
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To: MNJohnnie
I think 2018 hindges on a combination of things. Part of it is the insanity from the Dem but it also has to be matched with good government from Trump and the GOP. I am not worried about Trump, I am a little worried about the US House and totally worried about the GOP-E morons in the US Senate.

Points taken.

55 posted on 12/20/2016 2:56:14 PM PST by Oatka
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To: Kaslin

Make it so.


56 posted on 12/20/2016 3:09:06 PM PST by AFreeBird (BEST. ELECTION. EVER!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Trump should start deporting illegals in these Senate states first!

Put the word out that Illinois and California will be last...and that’s where they’ll migrate.


57 posted on 12/20/2016 3:54:58 PM PST by proudpapa (Trump Pence earned it.)
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

Who would be possible opponents?


58 posted on 12/20/2016 3:56:24 PM PST by taterjay
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To: Kaslin

Joe Piscopo may run as Libertarian or Independent in NJ...whatever works to defeat the Donkey senator.


59 posted on 12/20/2016 3:58:58 PM PST by rfp1234 (DinosorosExtinction)
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To: central_va

I would prefer him to be defeated and retired!


60 posted on 12/20/2016 4:01:38 PM PST by Reily
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