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To: Robert DeLong
No doubt that heroin is a bad substance, but I think alcohol is just as bad.

Alcohol is worse than all other drugs combined, and by several orders of magnitude. It's not even close when one pauses to consider the whole picture.

That's why the hysterical Prohibitionist Mind, with its simplistic authoritarian shortcuts, is such a dangerous thing. How utterly "progressive".

We've all seen the results of such thinking and policy historically, and so have our ancestors.

Threatening someone with prison for possessing the wrong plant, medicine, liquid spirits, or whatever is as antithetical to Liberty as you can get. People have the right to choose wrongly or foolishly in their "pursuit of happiness". The State certainly isn't a substitute for it.

When someone actually infringes on somebody else's rights via force, fraud, or negligence (say, DUI, for instance), that's when it's legitimate to bring the Law into the picture.

Barring that, there are still some of the People who value Unalienable Rights, such as the Right to Privacy and to be left alone in general, and won't exchange them for a little "temporary safety".

Education, not legislation, is the only thing that will ultimately mitigate the challenges which invariably accrue to a Free society.

I much prefer those animating challenges to some kind of totalitarian culture which attempts to force virtue out of people by threatening to destroy their lives to an even greater degree than substance abuse itself would.

And let's not forget, the Prohibitionist State can only wage such a War with ever expanding police powers and ever more draconian tactics. A Prohibitionist cannot be for limited government without being a hypocrite.

But I digress. By any objective analysis, however, whether it be violence, domestic abuse, vehicular homicides, health costs and consequences, or what have you, there's no doubt in my mind that our beloved alcohol wins that contest, hands down...

99 posted on 12/18/2016 2:36:54 PM PST by sargon (The Revolution is ON! Support President-elect Trump!)
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To: sargon
Strange, I do not remember suggesting that prohibition needs to be brought back. In fact a lot of these overdoses are caused by the user getting hold of varying degrees of heroin purity, or the heroin being cut with a substance that makes it more potent, and as a result they are overdosing.

I do agree that education would help, but sadly it too will not eliminate the problem. Hopefully it would convince enough to reject experimentation. What you never try can never addict you. But honestly telling what any drug, including alcohol, can ultimately lead to would do a lot more than the scare tactics used, and even the threats of incarceration do.

Now I also have no issue with the government getting involved to the point of regulating drugs for their potency, and sale of substances, only to take the alluring motivations of huge profits that drive the illegal markets.

104 posted on 12/18/2016 4:04:32 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: sargon
"Alcohol is worse than all other drugs combined"

what a ridiculous statement....

I think that people who want legal drugs use this alcohol is worse crap as some kind of talking point...

let me tell you...when someone drinks, everyone KNOWS it...the smell, the speech, the loss of control, etc...

you can stop a person from driving a bus or a train when you know they have been drinking...

but some of these druggies can carry on, even being high...

its totally unknown how many car accidents, and bus accidents and killings etc have happened over the use of drugs...

alcohol will slowly destroy your body but it takes usually decades...

drugs can kill you with one use...it can destroy lives before your 30 yrs old....

115 posted on 12/19/2016 12:42:44 AM PST by cherry
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