Posted on 12/16/2016 4:19:30 PM PST by Elderberry
The conversation about Barack Obamas birth certificate has been off the table for a while now but the true heart of the matter has never been resolved.
Has anything in his administration been valid or legal? Oddly enough, it seems that a clever legal strategy may make the question of a forged document somehow irrelevant to Obamas eligibility to hold office.
Coincidentally or not, it was none other than President-elect Donald Trump who, arguably, called off the hounds, got the Obama Admin to produce a document, and then called the whole thing square in the lead up to 2012.
More recently, Trump dismissed his previous ties to the birther movement during the last few weeks of his presidential campaign, brushing off the topic very hurriedly by stating: President Barack Obama was born in the United States, period.
However, the question isnt settled for investigators who have been conducting a five-year probe of the birth certificate they claim is a forgery complete with photoshop layers!
Maricopa County Sheriffs Office, headed by the outgoing Sheriff Joe Arpaio, found, via WND:
A years-long forensics investigation into the computer image of the long-form Hawaiian birth certificate image that Barack Obama released during a White House news conference during his first term and presented to the American people as an official government document concluded it is fake.
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The sheriffs video said there were nine images on the Obama birth certificate that appear to be identical to, and copied from, another birth certificate issued in Hawaii just days after his birth. That certificate belongs to Johanna Ahnee.
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The inescapable conclusion is that the Hawaii Department of Health has not shown the American public the original 1961 birth records for Barack Obama, if they actually exist, he said.
Clearly, the mainstream media will continue to cast doubt and ridicule on these claims.
But it isnt for lack of substance, but for fear that these dangerous issues could be raised. A Republican controlled Congress, however, could revive the issue again. That much remains to be seen.
So what does it all mean? According to Jerome Corsi, WND writer and author of Wheres the Birth Certificate?:
That President Obamas birth certificate is fake, as proven now by a legitimate law enforcement examination raises serious questions that high crimes and misdemeanors have been committed at the highest level of government. The clear conclusion is that the Obama presidency may have been illegitimate, having violated Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution. Impeachment procedures may be required, even if those procedures are conducted after Obama leaves office.
Sheriff Arpaio indicated his intent to raise Congressional hearings and put forward a law requiring presidential vetting (obviously a good idea):
I plan on turning over this investigation this month to the federal government. And Congress. And hope Congress No. 1 will pass a law, the president should be vetted. Common sense.
Meanwhile, the powers that be are claiming that the Arpaio posse investigation doesnt matter.
What makes these matters even more interesting is that Obama lawyers have apparently admitted that the document is a fake and went so far as to argue that the fake document, therefore, was not sufficient to disprove Obamas eligibility for the highest office.
After a Maricopa County law enforcement agency conducted a six-month forensic examination arguments from an Obama eligibility lawyer during a recent New Jersey ballot challenge hearing reveals the image was not only a fabrication, but that it was likely part of a contrived plot by counterfeiters to endow Obama with mere political support while simultaneously making the image intentionally appear absurd and, therefore, invalid as evidence toward proving Obamas ineligibility in a court of law.
Taking an audacious and shocking angle against the constitutional eligibility mandate, Obamas lawyer, Alexandra Hill, admitted that the image of Obamas birth certificate was a forgery and made the absurd claim that, therefore, it cannot be used as evidence to confirm his lack of natural born citizenship status. Therefore, she argued, it is irrelevant to his placement on the ballot.
Hill went on to contort reasoning by implying that Obama needs only invoke his political popularity, not legal qualifications, in order to be a candidate.
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Sadly, regardless of her moral deficiency, Hill is legally justified, says TDP Editor, Penbrook Johannson, Obamas eligibility is a separate matter than the charges of forgery and fraud. Of course, we have evidence that he is not eligible. But, evidence of forgery by as yet unidentified counterfeiters working on behalf of Obama is not what legally excludes Obama from appearing on a ballot, by itself, until some authority is willing to consider this as evidence of forgery on its merit as an indication of actual ineligibility in a court of legal authority.
These bizarre statements are actually on video skip ahead to 34-40 minutes in this second part for many of the relevant statements about how the alleged forgery never was relevant to whether or not Obama appeared on the ballot in 2012 though, in theory and in merit, it should have been.
In hindsight, there may have been a masterful strategy of evasion at work.
a) Barack Obama satisfied the public scrutiny over his birth certificate by outwardly bending to pressure from Donald Trumps show me routine
b) The Obama team (individuals not clearly identified) produced the document in question by leaking it to the press, and putting it online.
c) However, no birth certificate document was ever legally produced or turned in to anyone (including the State Dept.) in order to appear on the ballot, etc.
d) Therefore, legal questions concerning forgery of the document produced do not legally link up to anything about Obamas candidacy or presidency
e) Any questions or criminal allegations are posed towards as yet unknown conspirators meaning that, while the document may indeed be a proven forgery, no one is currently identified as having created the document. Unless Obama is personally implicated in creating and producing this document, it would have no bearing on his eligibility in retrospect or otherwise. At this point, it isnt even clear if a legitimate birth certificate exists for Obama, and if so, where it is located or being held.
f) Public perception is an entirely different beast. If it ever came to a head, the entire reign of Obama could be put into question. But luckily for the outgoing president, those making accusations and raising questions have been labeled and marginalized. Until the campaign of Donald Trump, the question had been largely dropped even in many right wing circles.
Who can pin the tail on this donkey?
I’m thinking of keeping my 8 year old tagline a little longer.....
Thanks!
Fuddy turned the birth certificate over to the White House. Then the White House arranged for a birth certificate to be posted on line. Asked if the BC on line was the same one she handed over, she said "no comment".
So she is the only one to ever admit having seen the real BC; she refused to confirm that the one posted was the real one. And within short order she was dead in a bizarre accident.
I noticed that there was always a weird game of denial involved with his BC. The governor announces they have his BC, and they've got it under lock and key. What? Why would you even announce such a thing in the first place? That by itself was weird. Asked, have you seen it? The governor says, well, no, I haven't seen it. And actually, its not in my safe, its in so-and-so's safe. They ask so-and-so, do you have it? Yes, its in the safe. Have you seen it? No, I haven't seen it, but its in there.
Then a subsequent governor announced he would get to the bottom of it, and then later, it all fizzles with him saying, well, I haven't seen it myself, but...
No one would ever admit having seen it. And the one person who had to see it and touch it was dead shortly thereafter.
This photo is the message from Obama and Democrats to law abiding Americans:
One thing is not in doubt, 0bama perpetrated a fraud against the entire populace of the United States with a forged document. Biggest fraud in American history.
In every state, several people broke the law by not verifying Obama’s eligibility. And those who knew in the federal government who did nothing should also face charges, which will include giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
I agree with your post.
(I also agree with your tag.)
I have always believed that Obama had done one of two things when it comes to questions about him being a citizen. if he is a citizen he lied on his paperwork to get into Harvard. claiming an African country or even Indonesia as his country in origin and he is a natural citizen or he is from over seas and his Harvard Occidental admissions paper work shows he is foreign born... Harvard refuses to show his records to the public and have them sealed.
I think it was Jeff Head who put up a finely detailed analysis of that "birth certificate" and described each layering and each copy/paste and each anachronism and each incompatibility. And that was within days.
I became convinced that all that was hidden because the father listed publicly is not the man on the birth certificate and suspicions of Kenyan birth were safer than knowledge of the father’s identity.
It’s an intriguing possibility , this Russian hacking into Hawaiian birth records, but his birth was from a period before these things were computerized, no? And certainly before the internet. So what would they conceivably be hacking into? Unless it could be proven that ALL paper birth documents from the period existing only in filing cabinets, and that no data transfer/photographing/copying of documents ever took place......I would love to see this settled conclusively, because it has always stunk to high heaven.
Even if he proves to be an “undocumented immigrant” who never got naturalized nothing he did as president will be undone by that fact. It will all be accepted as if legitimate and that which is dismantled will be done in a way that accepts the legitimacy of all of it and of him.
http://theobamafile.com/indexArchive.html
Everything here can be proven.
In a sane world, a man with this kind of background would never have been elected.
It still puts a huge black mark against his legacy; not that he needs much help in that regard.
Time for congress to get off its lazy butt and make some clarifying laws about who can run for President. It should have happened hundreds of years ago but we will settle for now.
Which document was the forgery?
His own web site, and his own book.
In Indonesia, the neighborhood children said that he came from Papua, New Guinea. Based on appearance, there was an Indonesian doppelganger parading for photos.
Possibly, he could be traced to one of these photographs? Or not.
http://www.nature.org/cs/groups/webcontent/@web/@papuanewguinea/documents/media/prd_026406.jpg
http://www.davehoekstra.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/oa_gal-bob-leroy-nguinea505.jpg
I remember reading analysis by Polarik, as well.
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