Posted on 12/16/2016 2:27:06 PM PST by fishtank
No, I still want few words. And I want them from you. Providing a link is fine, but I would like to know that you understand what is in the link.
Again, please be concise. Make real, logical connections with your words.
If speciation is true, there will be both fossils and living species consistent with expected results of evolution.
Tell me if you understand what I mean by “expected results.”
No.
All you do is ask stupid questions. You can’t even be bothered to put forth anything you think, any facts, any logic.
So the answer is NO.
If you want to DISCUSS it, then we can DISCUSS IT. But you asking stupid questions isn’t a discussion, that’s just you asking stupid questions hoping for a chance to yell gotcha. And I ain’t playin. So if your next post is nothing more than stupid questions don’t bother. Actually SAY something, or bugger off. I don’t care which.
If speciation is true, there will be both fossils and living species consistent with expected results of evolution.
And there are. Basically the ENTIRE fossil record and EVERY LIVING THING ON THE PLANET are the expected results of speciation.
If speciation exists, each observable species will have a known and observable very similar but different species. The trajectory of speciation dictates this.
But it simply is not found. Not just for dogs, cats, horses, tapirs or platypus. It is not found for any species. Completely obliterates any possibility evolution is true.
It is totally found. Have you never bothered to look at the biological tree of life?
Oh wait, I already know your answer, you remain unconvinced. Meanwhile, out here in reality, where the facts live, speciation is real, and exactly that evidence exists.
If dogs were preceded by another species (call it species a) that evolved into dogs, then species a would have been preceded by species b, and species b by c, c by d, d by e, and so on for as many species as there are successful groups or sets of morphological changes. Species a and species b would have to be very similar, as would species d and e, f and g, q and r, and so on.
The number of these species required if evolution is true is exponentially higher than the number of species observed.
There is no such species a, or b, c, d, e, etc for dogs. Not to mention for ostriches, sharks, chipmunks, wolverines, gila monsters or any other. No species is associated with anything even close to the trajectory of species assumed by the theory of speciation.
If dogs were preceded by another species (call it species a) that evolved into dogs, then species a would have been preceded by species b, and species b by c, c by d, d by e, and so on for as many species as there are successful groups or sets of morphological changes. Species a and species b would have to be very similar, as would species d and e, f and g, q and r, and so on.
The number of these species required if evolution is true is exponentially higher than the number of species observed.
There is no such species a, or b, c, d, e, etc for dogs. Not to mention for ostriches, sharks, chipmunks, wolverines, gila monsters or any other. No species is associated with anything even close to the trajectory of species assumed by the theory of speciation.
Like everyone I know and everyone you know I was introduced to the “biological tree of life” as a very young child, and have been reminded of it often throughout the years. Back then I was just as curious as any other boy about things such as this.
In those days I used to play with a boy my age, we were around 3 or 4 at the time. He would come over to my house, we would play for several hours and then we would fight and he would go home. Once in a while I think of this boy.
Who knows. Maybe, by some fantastic twist of fate, you are that same boy, now grown, meeting me here on this forum. If so, I would very much like to apologize to you for my pugnacious inclination so many years ago. Let our friendship go on and the bad behavior be left behind.
Yes there are. I know you’re not convinced, but if you actually bothered to understand taxonomy and how we figure out animals are related to each other you’d see that EVERYTHING you insist isn’t there, is.
The only one fighting is you. At least you finally started making statements that can be part of a discussion. They’re wrong statements, but wrong statements are better than stupid questions.
Meanwhile if you bothered to understand the tree of life you’d see that it provides everything you think speciation would demand. It proves you wrong.
I just haven’t seen a single transitional species. Much less the billions (or trillions) of transitional species that are necessary to demonstrate evolution.
if you have faith, there is no reason
That’s because you choose not to. The entire fossil record is transition species. Again, if you’d bother to understand the Tree, and the taxonomy that built it, you’d see that everything you demand as evidence is there.
That’s the scariest concept in the world. Reason is absolutely necessary for ALL.
-——Reason is absolutely necessary for ALL.——
Now that’s a joke. Fundamentalist Moslems have no reason whatsoever. Faith guides and rules
Given your strong words I assume you understand “the Tree.” If you do, then you can explain at least some of it. My inquiry will be very small, probably less than one millionth of the total knowledge this tree should provide.
Which species does “the Tree” tell us preceded dogs? Which preceded cats?
Camels?
Giraffes?
Lampreys?
White-tailed deer?
Koalas?
Please be as specific as you can. If you don’t give answers, I will assume either you don’t understand “the Tree” or the tree doesn’t do what you say it does.
Read the Stephen J Gould books that are a study of his work and other scholars. You should especially read Wonderful Life, the Burgess Shale and the nature of History.
Although I suspect you have a closed mind beyond salvation of enlightenment Wonderful Life is the place to begin.
If my questions are that difficult, how about just one then? Can I get an answer?
Here goes. Which species preceded the common field mouse in the trajectory of evolution?
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