Posted on 12/15/2016 8:12:33 AM PST by Freelance Warrior
First Deputy Head of the Main Operations Department at the Russian General Staff Lieutenant General Viktor Poznikhir said on Thursday:
The militants have been driven out of 105 city quarters with a total area of 78.5 square kilometers during the whole operation. Over 900 terrorists have been killed, dozens pieces of heavy weapons and other military equipment have been destroyed.
More than 3,000 militants have left Aleppo of their own free will, and more than half of them have been pardoned and released.
A total of 108,076 civilians, including 47,183 children, were evacuated via humanitarian corridors to the city’s safe quarters. Those people were accommodated in refugee centers organized beforehand. They are provided with hot meals and medical assistance.
Overall, the Russian combat engineers have demined 307 buildings, including 37 social facilities. They have inspected 30 kilometers of roads and neutralized a total of 2,742 explosive objects on area of 107 hectares.
(Excerpt) Read more at tass.com ...
and more than half of them have been pardoned and released. .................................. Great, that worries me. Where do they go from there? Hmmmmmm?
I trust Assad’s and the Russkie’s ability to vet them enough to pardon and release them, much more than I trust the Obama administration, for example.
I can’t imagine Russia letting them get away to fight another day. Maybe they will be dealt with when there is no one else around. If so, you have my consent.
This information, if accurate, certainly does not suggest wholesale slaughter of civilians warranting War Crimes charges.
Of course it comes from TASS and will be dismissed out of hand by many...especially US Neocons. And the US media.
Hmmm...there’s no way to know the veracity or circumstances of this. My instinct in Iraq was shoot first ask questions later. The fact they were not shot first leads me to believe that maybe they helped the Rooskies or made a truce. Once Assad assumes control, the Russians will likely leave and Assad will deal with those “militants”.
Suprisingly, the English language media has never reported of military matters, describing the Syrian civil war. “Russian heavy airstrikes have killed 20 civilians, hospitals, schools”. Nothing more. It makes one think that the Russian Air Force was after the civilans, schools and hospitals only. But, if it had been true the death toll would have been in thousands, the Russian Air Force is certainly capable of WWII-style carpet bombing. The media didn’t mention that the militants placed themselves in some of the schools, and many reported hospitals were ones of ad-hoc style, which hadn’t reported their positions to the Syrian Army or the Russians. I understand, that the press might haven’t believed all these, but they could have mentioned it adding “The Russians said” and/or a refutation.
The worst of the worst last holdouts were bussed out of East Aleppo this week, supposedly to “idlib”
Not sure who is running the program and how they sort them out
I read the Govt of Syria was giving amnesty to ethnic Syrians but ISIS mercenary foreigners were not being granted much mercy - except for criminals such as the guy who publicly beheaded a child
The Iranian Shia militia seem to have many grudges to be settled with these guys, they were still shelling the evac convoys until the Russians finally ended it
It’s not going to be easy and there is still going to be killing, just hopefully not on this huge scale
Now its up to the people of Aleppo to be a bit more cautious about who they allow into their neighborhoods and who they cheer for
They know who was shelling them, gassing them and hiding behind them for the past 4 years
Wars don’t just end, enmities go on
While the Russians and Syrian Govt have set up evac camps and humanitarian services for over 100,000 people escaping 4 years of captivity in the hands of radical militias, the French were turning out the lights on Eiffel Tower and mourning the “fall of Aleppo” with the western media
and the “White Helmets” NGO funded to the reported tune of $100 million by the US and its allies- the people of Aleppo don’t even know who they are
Yeah, they’re in Palmyra now.
This is like when Clinton said she wanted to “push ISIS out of Iraq” in one of the debates and NO ONE asked her where they would be pushed to.
“The fact they were not shot first leads me to believe that maybe they helped the Rooskies or made a truce.”
There was an agreement between the Russians and the Turks (Turkey supports the rebels) to give them safe passage to evacuate. It has been a pretty common practice in Syria during this war.
It is just a lot cheaper than fighting to the last man, and levelling the neighborhood.
What is a serious Russian military failure. Former Russian generals say it publicly, probably, I'll post a translated article on this here.
Russia unlike us doesn’t mess about when it comes to wars. They have hit hospitals , but so have we in Afghanistan.
Russia has seen their planes crash in exercises, but so have we.
Now saying that, it doesn’t stop some from still fighting the Cold war .
Looks like the Donald was correct.
“Well Aleppo is a disaster. It’s a humanitarian nightmare, but it has fallen from any standpoint. What do you need, a signed document?”
The world really isn’t so complicated when you cut through the bullish*t.
McCain, Graham and Rubio must be really dejected that all those weapons they arranged for their jihadi buddies did not help them win.
Palmyra and the T-4 airbase are being mopped up as we speak
>>>” but ISIS mercenary foreigners were not being granted much mercy - except for criminals such as the guy who publicly beheaded a child”<<<
One shouldn’t pardon or grant amnesty to those who have committed murder and in fact genocide. These people are no longer ‘normal people’, they are hardcore murderers, who are ideologically brainwashed and now are only subdued, at best. Given half a chance they will reorganise and return, maybe not short-term, but definitely medium to longer term.
I can understand if they are moved from urban areas to country, which makes it easier to contain and manage them. And, that there are govts such as Turkey, SA, Qatar, etc.. who have their own agendas, and might have insisted on a deal to spare ISIS and other Jihadis.
Aleppo has been liberated, yes. Though very much doubt the fight against ISIS and AQ is over. The core of the problem is and has always been their foreign backers, i.e. Turkey, SA, and co.
Perhaps they’ll send them to SA “Rehab Camps”, which are actually radicalisation camps. NOT GOOD.
” but ISIS mercenary foreigners were not being granted much mercy - except for criminals such as the guy who publicly beheaded a child”
I think that sentence is misleading, or garbled in translation.
I think they meant to say that foreign jihadis were not granted mercy, but native Syrian jihadis were - except for those known war criminals.
So it is a bit of a good news story - their way of saying that non-Syrian jihadis are being swiftly executed when captured. This has become a common practice in the Syrian Civil War.
Yes, correct
The native Syrians are apparently being screened by the Syrian Govt for amnesty, the foreign mercenaries, not so much
Except there may have been some side deals made to return some of them to Turkey or other countries of origin
Ok.
In my view, moving forward, Russians at least (if not others who directly fought AQ and its offshoots in Syria), should maintain an active presence in Syria, for as long as the ISIS, AQ problem is unresolved, to ensure stability.
I have no doubt ISIS/AQ and co. will return in time or will be sent back. Furthermore, those ‘foreign jihadists’ returning to their European or Western or any other host country, should be very closely monitored and detained at the border, not let loose in the country, IF these countries are serious about WOT. Most Western countries know & can identify who they are. These jihadists in essence should have no safe place to go to.
“These jihadists in essence should have no safe place to go to.”
As a matter of policy, that is probably the safest course for us.
In practice, the Turks and the Gulf Arabs will probably work to protect them (and Saudi funded mosques and madrassas will keep producing them).
We can definitely tighten up to keep them out of our country, and expel those already here.
I think that we can look forward to seeing some action on all these fronts next year.
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