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Pittsburgh council prez says conversion therapy is 'soul murder'
PGHTrib.com ^ | 12/7/2016 | Bob Bauder

Posted on 12/08/2016 6:33:21 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog

Pittsburgh City Council on Wednesday advanced legislation that would prohibit licensed mental health professionals from subjecting minors to “conversion therapy,” the practice of attempting to change a person's sexual orientation.

The legislation is intended to protect gay and transgender people younger than 18 and was a response to the election of Republican Donald Trump and Indiana Gov. Mike Pence as president and vice president, said council President Bruce Kraus, a South Side Democrat.

Kraus, who is gay, called conversion therapy “a form of soul murder.”

“I think it's obvious if anyone has followed national news there's clearly been a change in administrations, and there's a history that our vice president-elect has brought with him,” Kraus said. “He supports this barbaric practice of conversion therapy and funding of conversion therapy.”

National LGBT groups have registered similar complaints about Pence since the election, but a Pence spokesman has denied that Pence supports conversion therapy.

Councilman Dan Gilman of Squirrel Hill, who sponsored the bill with Kraus, said his office has received calls from a few people who said they were subjected to conversion therapy in the city.

He declined to provide the practitioners' identities.

“This is about being a city that protects children from mental and physical abuse,” Gilman said.

While critics claim conversion therapy sometimes comes in the form of physical and mental abuse, the New York Times reported last week that most current practitioners rely on psychoanalytic methods that include group therapy.

Groups including the American Medical Association and the American Psychological Association have condemned conversion therapy.

City residents offered mixed opinions.

Mark Brentley Sr., 59, of Allegheny Center, a former Pittsburgh Public Schools director, said parents should be permitted to seek conversion therapy for their children. He told council members they were “overreaching” by proposing the ban.

Harriet Schwartz, associate professor of psychology and counseling at Carlow University who was accompanied by two Carlow students, praised council for voting to ban the practice.

“I think that the ban is important for the protections it provides and also because it sends an important message,” she said. “It tells the (LGBT) young people in our region that they're not someone who is broken and who needs to be fixed.”

Councilwoman Darlene Harris drew criticism from Kraus when she questioned whether the city had legal authority to enforce the legislation. Kraus accused her of supporting Trump's campaign. She called him the worst council president in city history.

Kraus said an assistant city solicitor approved the bill, but Solicitor Lourdes Sanchez Ridge said she would have to research it before providing a legal opinion. Downtown attorney Phil DiLucente said the city has authority under its Home Rule Charter to enforce the ban.

“They're permitted to pass laws that they believe would speak to the detriment of the health, safety and welfare of its citizens,” he said.

Harris abstained from a preliminary vote that passed 8-0. Council, which has nine members, all Democrats, is expected to schedule a final vote for Tuesday. If it passes, Mayor Bill Peduto's office said he intends to sign the bill.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: conversiontherapy; democrat; gay; homosexualagenda; liberal; pittsburgh; sodomandgomorrah
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To: TexasFreeper2009
so... if the kid thought they were a rock or a tree would this guy be against conversion therapy?

"I hear voices in my head telling me to be a gay serial killer." Another scenario that could tie-up our entire court system for 13 years.


21 posted on 12/08/2016 6:58:40 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

What if these homosexuals want to try it?

My God, no freedom of choice.


22 posted on 12/08/2016 6:58:44 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Paladin2

City governments have some very basic tasks to accomplish.

Keep the streets paved.
Keep street lights on.
Pick-up the garbage.
Maintain police and fire protection.

Any city government trying to do more than these
is guilty of severe overreach.


23 posted on 12/08/2016 6:59:56 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

The day a young person is molested or recruited is the day the soul was murdered.


24 posted on 12/08/2016 7:00:18 AM PST by lurk (TEat)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

".....I'm a Dobbler weather radar station, don't unplug me"

25 posted on 12/08/2016 7:00:35 AM PST by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Imagine if one of the nearby townships offered themselves as a “sanctuary city” for practitioners of conversion therapy. Liberal heads would explode.


26 posted on 12/08/2016 7:03:06 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Get used to it - President Donald J. Trump)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

A man showing off why Romans 1:18-32 is spot on accurate.


27 posted on 12/08/2016 7:04:59 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: RoosterRedux
soul murder???

Now this is a soul murder,

"Rachel Dolezal Finally Admits She’s White, But Says She Still Identifies As Black"

Or is it 'sole murder'?

28 posted on 12/08/2016 7:06:03 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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To: Buckeye McFrog
“conversion therapy,” the practice of attempting to change a person's sexual orientation cure a person of a mental disorder.
29 posted on 12/08/2016 7:07:03 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Ahh Pittsburgh City Council... where circus monkeys and clowns pretend to be civic leaders.


30 posted on 12/08/2016 7:11:24 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: OrangeHoof
Imagine if one of the nearby townships offered themselves as a “sanctuary city” for practitioners of conversion therapy.

I'm betting on Wall Borough. Population 575. The lone business is a Christian television station.


31 posted on 12/08/2016 7:13:50 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Sounds like a description of conversion to Islam.


32 posted on 12/08/2016 7:25:44 AM PST by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

So you can tell a boy he is a girl, but not tell a homosexual he can change? This world.


33 posted on 12/08/2016 7:34:38 AM PST by sharkhawk (GO CUBS GO)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Whoa, who does the city council think they are? Show the taxpayers where this is in the city codes. Time to start kicking these elected officials out.

Okey dokey, then there’s no reason not to treat these mental cases on what started their low self esteem.


34 posted on 12/08/2016 7:35:21 AM PST by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Buckeye McFrog

This logic should include pedophilia, bestiality, and all other forms of sexual attractions. /s


35 posted on 12/08/2016 7:38:06 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: ilovesarah2012

he is probably pro abortion which is murder murder.


36 posted on 12/08/2016 7:40:56 AM PST by Palio di Siena
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To: bgill

Problem is the old Democrat coalition that ran this town (Tammany Hall-types who were in bed with the unions, but onboard with the area’s traditional Catholic values) has been eclipsed by people like Peduto who are the darlings of the Avant-Garde Urban Professional Creative Class who have been lured to move here from big liberal cities by the universities and the tech sector.

They are now outvoting the little old Polish ladies whose husbands used to toil in the mill.


37 posted on 12/08/2016 7:41:21 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Haha! A certain mayor and a certain former police chief of his.


38 posted on 12/08/2016 7:43:53 AM PST by surroundedbyblue (Proud to be an Infidel & a deplorable.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
I was gonna say!

Let's hear this gay politician's opinion on whether a minor sodomizing - being sodomized by another male, is "soul murder".

39 posted on 12/08/2016 7:56:42 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (If you don't read the newspaper, you're uninformed. If you DO read it, you're misinformed. - Twain)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Actually, plenty of people were murdered by those with AIDS who had the encouragement to spread it.


40 posted on 12/08/2016 8:33:47 AM PST by fwdude (Stronger, To Get Her)
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