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Strict voter ID law approved in Michigan House
The Detroit News | 12/7/2016 | Jonathan Oosting

Posted on 12/07/2016 9:13:30 PM PST by Voluntaryist

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To: Anima Mundi

I like your idea...combine that with an end to mail in voting and I would be happy


21 posted on 12/07/2016 11:07:43 PM PST by PCPOET7
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To: Enterprise

They ought to call out that canard as the incredibly racist, insulting meme the rats have ever come up with. They think their constituents are too stupid to get IDs!

Of course they know better than that, they just say it for the political benefit.


22 posted on 12/07/2016 11:16:50 PM PST by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)
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To: Bullish

Amen!


23 posted on 12/07/2016 11:21:41 PM PST by chuckb87
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To: GraceG; Bullish

Exactly my point though: There aren’t any voters without ID. The only reason they say it is as a marxist tactic so they continue to be allowed to cheat. It has to stop or we’ll never be able to make the country great again.


24 posted on 12/07/2016 11:22:15 PM PST by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)
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To: Anima Mundi

Make every voter go through e-verify. Make every Drivers License application have to be validated by e-verify. When renewing in Florida, you have to bring proof of who you are.

Primary Identification

An Original or Certified of One of the Following Primary Identication Documents

Certified United States birth certificate, including territories and District of Columbia
Valid United States Passport or Passport Card
Consular Report of Birth Abroad
Certificate of Naturalization, Form N-550 or Form N-570
Certificate of Citizenship, Form N-560 or Form N-561

http://www.dmvflorida.org/drivers-license-identification.shtml#us

This is not fool-proof but it is a start but still, the e-veify bolstered and properly administered will weed them out. As one has said above, the biggest problem after that is inside the precincts as the recount has shown in Detroit. I saw this gaping hole when I was a Poll Worker in the previous two elections and a Poll Watcher in the two prior to that. I know the local Supervisor of Elections personally and he is very aware of what can happen and is happening when we see precincts that are ALWAYS late in reporting. Does Broward and Palm Beach Counties ring a bell?


25 posted on 12/08/2016 12:38:05 AM PST by mazda77
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To: Piranha

Yup. Solid voter ID will help in a few states, but you’ve got to have the ballot boxes verified (and you’ve got to maintain control of the ballots, both those voted and blank).

The major fraud is by insiders “voting for” a lot of those who didn’t show up on Election Day.


26 posted on 12/08/2016 12:46:10 AM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: RayChuang88

Winning.


27 posted on 12/08/2016 12:52:49 AM PST by FreshStart 2016
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To: RayChuang88

Therein lies the issue. It has to be a verifiable ID. A picture ID issued by the local health club shouldn’t work.


28 posted on 12/08/2016 2:09:23 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (It's no longer Right versus left, but Americanism versus globalist scum.)
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To: Enterprise

It’s tough to get an ID when you are dead.


29 posted on 12/08/2016 3:26:29 AM PST by Kozak (ALLAH AKBAR = HEIL HITLER)
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To: Voluntaryist

That’s great. But remember what happened in NC and Wisconsin. It just takes 1 judge.


30 posted on 12/08/2016 3:27:37 AM PST by Kozak (ALLAH AKBAR = HEIL HITLER)
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To: Bullish

56 more states to go.... WINNING !


31 posted on 12/08/2016 3:45:07 AM PST by OldWhammerJammer
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To: PGR88

DING DING DING! We have a winner!


32 posted on 12/08/2016 4:16:57 AM PST by motor_racer (Who will bell the cat?)
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To: Anima Mundi

There is no Federal election. That term needs to banished from this forumn. There are only state and local elections. There are state elections for federal offices and there is state election to appoint representatives formthe fedral office of president.

We shoeld nver allow our elections to come u der thendirection and control of thenUS federla governmwnt. It has been trying hard and gaining ground and everyone whomrecognizes and proclaims amneed for thenfederal government tomdo something ismhelping their cause.


33 posted on 12/08/2016 4:26:30 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: usafa92

Issuing free IDs would be the best and most economical way to go in the mid/long run - it would save untold billions and also insure the integrity of the ballot. What price can we put on the integrity of the ballot alone?


34 posted on 12/08/2016 4:33:53 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb

We need to make that the standard response- every time they say they are against voter id because the stupid people can’t get an ID, we just offer to personally drive and pay for anyone who has not been able to get an ID.

You need an ID for everything these days- show me a (legal) citizen who DOES NOT have an ID!


35 posted on 12/08/2016 4:38:18 AM PST by Mr. K ( Trump kicked her ass 2-to-1 if you remove all the voter fraud.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Michigan folks should also pass law requiring one judge from each party for each precinct. No votes counted without two sides represented. OPEN VOTING PRECINCTS. No more Democrat fraud centers. Take 10 out of every 100 absentee ballots and random check for truth. Big penalty for falsifying.

I pray this new administration stops these Democrats from cacelling my votes every year with their illegals, multiple votes from one ballot and other fraudulent means.


36 posted on 12/08/2016 4:55:59 AM PST by Hattie
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To: Voluntaryist

How about, in addition to a state-issued ID, also requiring a fingerprint for both in-person and absentee voters? Any absentee ballot (where much of the fraud occurs), lacking a fingerprint is declared invalid. (Not worth digging up the Cook County cemetary to see which corpses still have viable fingerprints.)

Of course, this might disenfranchise those fleeing from law enforcement, convicted felons and illegal aliens who fear that the cops or Immigration might be able to track them down. /sarc

Nothing is going to stop those wily election officials who insert ballots into the scanners multiple times, unless ballots are printed on a similar type of paper as prescriptions are - prescriptions can’t be photocopied or scanned.

All we need is a ballot paper that, after a single scan, has a big “VOTED” appear on it that the scanner can’t/won’t accept a second or a sixth time. There’s a worthy task for all the budding Freep-ventors out there!


37 posted on 12/08/2016 5:12:52 AM PST by tank_sherman
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To: usafa92

Unfortunately, governments, whether state or federal are going to have to give away free ids and b/c’s as stated in this law.”””

Why would any state have to give away BIRTH CERT’s?

YOU should already have your BC. The free ID’s are OK with me, but I don’t understand the 8 year period. IF it is an IS that can ONLY be used to vote-—it would get replaced with a new one if you moved. People move on the average of every 3 1/2 years in the USA.

When I get my driver’s license renewed, the old one is punctured with a pattern of holes, so it isn’t good any longer than the arrival of my new license.


38 posted on 12/08/2016 5:44:50 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: RayChuang88
Imagine if strict requirements for proof of identification using Real ID compliant photo ID cards are mandatory to vote in an election. The resulting cut in voter fraud would be so huge that supposedly "blue" states like Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania could go solidly "red" again.

I was impressed with the level of citizenship and residency proof in original only papers I had to bring to the DMV to get the Real ID stamp on my license. If only this was mandatory on all govt issued photo IDs in order to be allowed through the doors at every polling location, never mind vote.

39 posted on 12/08/2016 5:49:47 AM PST by USCG SimTech
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To: PCPOET7

I worked on a plan. It is too long to retype here.

Go to thread # 3498841 to post #44.

IF anyone has anything to add to my items there, please let me know.

You all have my permission to pass it on to anyone you wish.


40 posted on 12/08/2016 5:52:08 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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