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Desperate families and friends of party-goers missing after huge Oakland warehouse blaze killed up
Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | December 3, 2016 | Jenny Stanton

Posted on 12/03/2016 11:08:38 AM PST by Cecily

At least nine people died in a massive fire that destroyed a northern California warehouse that was an artist collective during an electronic music party early Saturday morning and officials said the building had no sprinkler system or working smoke detectors.

Fire Chief Teresa Deloche-Reed said that at least another 25 people are still unaccounted for after the deadly blaze started around 11:30pm in the 1300 block of 31st Avenue during an event advertised as 'Rave Cave' featuring musician Golden Donna's 100% Silk West Coast tour.

'We still have to do a more thorough search of the building and we don't know the potential number of other victims,' Deloche-Reed said.

'In my career of 30 years, I haven't experienced something of this magnitude.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: US: California
KEYWORDS: california; fire; oakland; rave
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To: Alberta's Child

But they have those regulations - a lot of good they did!

It’s incompetent and corrupt administrators that’s the problem.


21 posted on 12/03/2016 11:31:30 AM PST by aquila48
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To: livius
There was probably also a lot of accelerant type of material used by artists (turps and other solvents, paints, etc).

Perhaps, but if you look at the pre-fire pictures, the place looked like one big rummage sale. There was a lot of clutter, and most of it was probably flammable.

It was a disaster waiting to happen. Unfortunately, it was full of people when the odds finally caught up to them.

22 posted on 12/03/2016 11:33:57 AM PST by justlurking (#TurnOffCNN)
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To: dainbramaged; livius

What a horrible tragedy.
Nobody goes to a club / dancing expecting to die in an inferno.
Such terrible news to learn. :-(

23 posted on 12/03/2016 11:38:16 AM PST by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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To: rockinqsranch
My second guess freebasing drugs.

I was told freebasing was old school (Richard Pryor jokes), but given the photos of the loft, lots of kitschy, retro, inflammable stuff, so maybe old school was "in".

24 posted on 12/03/2016 11:43:13 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Veggie Todd
No sprinklers. No smoke alarms. A makeshift stairwell. Clutter everywhere. Young pajama snowflakes taking drugs. What could go wrong?

When I was young, if I entered a place like that I would immediately leave. Way too much clutter! Long ago in the 1960s I used to frequently go to Fillmore West in SF. They had a lot of furniture including sofas under balconies, where you could watch the bands and dance floor, all on a second floor. If a fire started, at the least you could go to the open dance floor and make for the exits.

That warehouse in Oakland was definitely a hazardous trap. Just one dropped lit cigarette or joint and poof. Poor kids!

25 posted on 12/03/2016 11:45:44 AM PST by roadcat
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To: mylife

“Another reason to avoid Oakland”

Another asinine statement from someone who doesn’t know jack. I just picked up our daughter who lives in downtown Oakland about 20 blocks from the fire so she could have lunch with her mother. While there are places in East Oakland that are terrible (mostly black and ME trash), downtown Oakland is very clean and modern and has no crime of any consequence.


26 posted on 12/03/2016 11:48:06 AM PST by vette6387
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To: Cecily

A couple of their comrades: https://youtu.be/VsoVYStL6gQ


27 posted on 12/03/2016 11:50:21 AM PST by Go No
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To: Veggie Todd

You forgot citizens from other countries ....


28 posted on 12/03/2016 11:51:32 AM PST by hoosiermama (“Christian faith is not the past but the present and the future. Make it stronger. "DJT)
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To: vette6387

What ever dude


29 posted on 12/03/2016 11:51:54 AM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Cecily

https://mobile.twitter.com/seungylee14/status/805122472567652352?p=v

This young man was there and writes his account of what he saw and heard. From what he saw, if those 25 really are missing, they did not make it out.


30 posted on 12/03/2016 11:52:30 AM PST by SE Mom (proud Screaming Eagle mom)
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To: Cecily
The Cocoanut Grove fire of 1942. 492 people dead. The worst such fire in American history.

If you have ever wondered why the doors of public buildings always swing outward, this is why.

31 posted on 12/03/2016 11:53:32 AM PST by Ciaphas Cain (The choice to be stupid is not a conviction I am obligated to respect.)
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To: mylife

“What ever dude”

O.K. Tommy Vietor


32 posted on 12/03/2016 11:54:43 AM PST by vette6387
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To: rockinqsranch

First of sorry to hear that this awful event happened.

You posted the probable reality:

My guess: Old warehouse. Probably never upgraded the old wiring, and had an overloaded electrical system.

My second guess freebasing drugs.”

Also, probably no fire extinguishers or fire sprinkler systems.

Northern coastal California counties, Western Oregon and Washington have a lot of these so called art havens. They were factories, warehouses and sometimes old schools. They were abandoned and later emerged as places like this one, meeting places and places of free trade.

We avoid these places because of the potential of severe disasters like this one happening when you are there.


33 posted on 12/03/2016 11:54:45 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Hey, whining losers,Trump will just go ahead & make things better for us without you!!!!")
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To: dainbramaged

Cocoanut Grove fire in Boston, 1942.

492 people dead.

http://www.cocoanutgrovefire.org/


34 posted on 12/03/2016 11:56:45 AM PST by Deo volente ("Our Independence Day is at hand, and it arrives finally on November 8th." Donald Trump)
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To: Go No

Why does the so called Mexican girl have an east European accent?

idiots abound, some won the darwin award in oakland


35 posted on 12/03/2016 11:56:56 AM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: vette6387

Personally, I would move the F out of Oakland, and yes pal I have been there.


36 posted on 12/03/2016 11:58:08 AM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Ciaphas Cain

Sorry, I didn’t see that you had already posted this.


37 posted on 12/03/2016 11:58:48 AM PST by Deo volente ("Our Independence Day is at hand, and it arrives finally on November 8th." Donald Trump)
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To: vette6387

I hate to see anyone die of ignorance.

Always have a plan


38 posted on 12/03/2016 12:00:00 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Veggie Todd

I read somewhere that the makeshift stairwell was made out of pallets. Like you said - What could go wrong?


39 posted on 12/03/2016 12:03:13 PM PST by Patriot Babe
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To: Deo volente

No worries. Great minds think alike ;-)


40 posted on 12/03/2016 12:03:20 PM PST by Ciaphas Cain (The choice to be stupid is not a conviction I am obligated to respect.)
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