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A Pennsylvania recount for Hillary Clinton? A ‘nightmare scenario,’ explained (or Stein)
BillyPenn ^ | November 23, 2016 | Anna Orso

Posted on 11/24/2016 10:46:45 AM PST by bobsunshine

A group of secret computer scientists and data analysts are reportedly urging Hillary Clinton to push for a recount of the votes in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania — three key swing states that delivered Donald Trump the presidency on Election Day. According to New York Magazine, that group claims it has found evidence of vote tampering and wants Clinton’s camp to file to recount all those millions of votes.

There’s no evidence the Clinton campaign is actually considering such a drastic move. And indeed, New York says the White House is discouraging her campaign from trying. But if it were to, Pennsylvania would likely be the campaign’s biggest hurdle. A recount in Pennsylvania would be, as described here by an expert on voting machines, a “nightmare scenario.” The Keystone State’s voting machines are outdated by decades and don’t create any sort of paper trail that can be used in cases of recounts.

A recount could still happen under court order. But it would be unprecedented in recent history in Pennsylvania. Though statewide recounts have taken place here, they’ve been ordered by the Secretary of State in Pennsylvania and were mandatory under state law because the winner of the election won within a margin of 0.5 percent. That’s not the case here — Clinton lost to Trump in PA by about 70,000 votes, more than a full percentage point.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2016swingstates; clinton; pa2016; stein; trump
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To: mrsmith

I thought that the recount, rerecount, rererecount was in the county were Bush had a few hundred votes over Gore and may have swayed FLA towards Gore. They grudgingly agreed to recount the whole state but it never got that far. There was also an issue the overseas service men and women ballots.


41 posted on 11/24/2016 12:41:52 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Alberta's Child

I am really looking forward to bringing the federal government back to the size and scope of about 1910. That’s how far back we’ll have to go to restore the Constitution. All social programs need to go. Most federal departments need to go. All federal laws that interfere with the sovereignty of the states have to go. The federal government has no business defining “civil rights,” or getting involved with retirement savings health care or education.

Social Security is unconstitutional. So are Medicare and Medicaid,along with Obamacare. Common Core also is unconstitutional. So is forced “desegregation” of schools. I could go on and on.


42 posted on 11/24/2016 1:00:00 PM PST by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: mrsmith

Interesting... a Statewide recount never happened and the focus was on the undercount votes - ballots that didn’t indicate a vote for Gore nor Bush - and the attempt to guess how they might have voted.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/01/the-florida-recount-of-2000/


43 posted on 11/24/2016 1:10:44 PM PST by dhs12345
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Stein said before the election that if she was forced to make a choice she’d vote for Trump.

What if this is a well orchestrated ploy to recount FOR THE PURPOSE OF EXPOSING THE VOTE FRAUD SCHEMES. What if Stein is working with Trump people?

Notice how Obama and Hillary didn’t take the bait.


44 posted on 11/24/2016 1:25:44 PM PST by USCG SimTech
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To: bobsunshine
I wonder if Clinton will stop this because massive illegals who voted for her would be exposed - thus her popular vote would diminish. Just thinking - doubt she cares.

I wonder if Clinton will stop this because she made a midnight deal with Donald that she would concede if he would not pursue her legally?

45 posted on 11/24/2016 1:26:45 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: bobsunshine

A group of secret computer scientists and data analysts analysts where were they for Hillarys server?


46 posted on 11/24/2016 1:49:08 PM PST by hawg-farmer - FR..October 1998 (VMFA 235 '69-'72 KMCAS <---)
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To: Signalman

it’s a handful of nut jobs, and the MSM is over reporting it because they’re still butt hurt over the election.

don’t overreact.


47 posted on 11/24/2016 1:59:57 PM PST by JohnBrowdie
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To: bobsunshine

There was “evidence of vote tampering” all through this year’s long voting process and it was all the other way. From all over the country came video supported observations of machines changing Trump votes to Mrs Bill. Broward County FL got aught shredding Republican absentee votes and manufacturing Democrat votes to the number 180,000 etc et al and on and on.


48 posted on 11/24/2016 2:02:31 PM PST by arthurus
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To: ChildOfThe60s

As would the other couple of million of them there and in Chicago.


49 posted on 11/24/2016 2:03:36 PM PST by arthurus
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I live in CA. I can DAMNED GUARANTEE you that if illegal immigrant votes were extracted from count HELLARY would lose CA.!!! I guarantee it !!!!!!


50 posted on 11/24/2016 2:18:44 PM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: bobsunshine

The Keystone State’s voting machines are outdated by decades and don’t create any sort of paper trail that can be used in cases of recounts.

is there anything in PA that isn’t outdated by decades? PSU’s football uniforms come to mind...


51 posted on 11/24/2016 2:25:07 PM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: knarf

Hillary won’t do it and she won’t be president. BUT I believe her campaign is using this conversation as a front for revenge to undermine Trump’s legitimacy.


52 posted on 11/24/2016 2:28:04 PM PST by bjcoop
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To: poinq

They might want to flip just enough states, that Trumps remaining electoral votes would be vulnerable to “faithless electors”.

It’s not over until Jan 20.


53 posted on 11/24/2016 2:31:19 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: PA Engineer
As soon as it was impossible to commit enough fraud, I switched to the NYT's map and watched Pennsylvania turn red. Shortly afterwards, the networks began reporting Mr. Trump had taken the state.

These are beautiful words. I love hearing them.

54 posted on 11/24/2016 2:45:32 PM PST by thecodont
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To: USCG SimTech

Interesting theory!


55 posted on 11/24/2016 2:49:23 PM PST by thecodont
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat
I live in CA. I can DAMNED GUARANTEE you that if illegal immigrant votes were extracted from count HELLARY would lose CA.!!! I guarantee it !!!!!!

Have you seen this article? Did you check your precinct results?

The map is statewide. Let it load, then pan, scroll and zoom in as needed.

http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-pol-ca-california-neighborhood-election-results/

56 posted on 11/24/2016 2:52:58 PM PST by thecodont
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To: bobsunshine

They figured out a way to get Hillary 50% more votes electronically if she would just demand a recount.


57 posted on 11/24/2016 2:56:19 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

I feel for your outrage and frustration.


58 posted on 11/24/2016 3:15:40 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ("If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there")
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To: Junk Silver

Yup


59 posted on 11/24/2016 5:21:12 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (In 1986, Ted Kennedy said No More Amnesty for Illegals)
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To: dhs12345

No, there are a lot of counties at least in the process of being recounted, I assume all of them. I remember seeing county by county running totals.


60 posted on 11/24/2016 5:34:21 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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