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To: Lurkinanloomin

He is not a natural born citizen, his mother was still a Mexican national when he was born.

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As much as we don’t like it, he was born here, so he’s a natural born citizen. If you prefer, you can think of him as an anchor baby. Anchor babies are citizens, but both parents are not. That’s why the Democrats can talk about deportation “breaking up families”, because the babies unfortunately have a right to be here when Mommy and Daddy don’t.


16 posted on 11/23/2016 10:32:31 AM PST by angryoldfatman
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To: angryoldfatman

Children of illegal aliens are not even citizens, that is a misinterpretation of the 14th Amendment that must be corrected.
They are certainly not natural born citizens, eligible to be President.
John Jay in his letter to George Washington insisted on the term natural born citizen to preclude any foreign influence on the Presidency.
They did not use native born, which is simply born here.
Natural born citizen means born here of citizen parents.
No possibility of being anything else.
No foreign birth
No foreign parent(s)
No foreign citizenship(s)

George P. Bush could have chosen to be a Mexican national owing to his mother being a Mexican national, he is ineligible.


17 posted on 11/23/2016 10:38:03 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: angryoldfatman
he was born here, so he’s a natural born citizen.

you can think of him as an anchor baby.

Not if his father is a US citizen. He's a citizen.

his mother was still a Mexican national when he was born.

Then he's a Mexican citizen as well. A "natural born citizen" can have no other nationality.

Anchor babies are citizens

That's debatable. Not according to the author of the language of the 14th Amendment, Senator Jacob M. Howard of Michigan.

The only purpose was for granting citizenship to recently freed African slaves, not foreigners. It didn't even apply to American Indians.

In 1866, Howard wrote:

>> Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers. <<

deportation “breaking up families”, because the babies unfortunately have a right to be here when Mommy and Daddy don’t.

Though that's been the practice, not so sure that they do. Congress needs to write clarifying legislation.

More RAT-BS. Nobody's forcing the children to stay here, they can go back to Mexico with their parents.

That's just a scam to dilute the real US citizens' birthright and give free stuff (that we have to pay for) to criminal invaders.

27 posted on 11/24/2016 8:11:14 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs)
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