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To: angryoldfatman
he was born here, so he’s a natural born citizen.

you can think of him as an anchor baby.

Not if his father is a US citizen. He's a citizen.

his mother was still a Mexican national when he was born.

Then he's a Mexican citizen as well. A "natural born citizen" can have no other nationality.

Anchor babies are citizens

That's debatable. Not according to the author of the language of the 14th Amendment, Senator Jacob M. Howard of Michigan.

The only purpose was for granting citizenship to recently freed African slaves, not foreigners. It didn't even apply to American Indians.

In 1866, Howard wrote:

>> Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers. <<

deportation “breaking up families”, because the babies unfortunately have a right to be here when Mommy and Daddy don’t.

Though that's been the practice, not so sure that they do. Congress needs to write clarifying legislation.

More RAT-BS. Nobody's forcing the children to stay here, they can go back to Mexico with their parents.

That's just a scam to dilute the real US citizens' birthright and give free stuff (that we have to pay for) to criminal invaders.

27 posted on 11/24/2016 8:11:14 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Not if his father is a US citizen. He’s a citizen.
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I was taking the premise of the argumentative opponent as true.

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The only purpose was for granting citizenship to recently freed African slaves, not foreigners. It didn’t even apply to American Indians.
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The only mention of the Indians is in section 2:

Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

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That’s debatable. Not according to the author of the language of the 14th Amendment, Senator Jacob M. Howard of Michigan.

The only purpose was for granting citizenship to recently freed African slaves, not foreigners. It didn’t even apply to American Indians.
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Intentions are intentions, they were not in writing. The author should have put language in that made it more clear if what you say is true (though I have no idea if it is or isn’t and don’t really care).

I do know that what you said about African slaves is true; it was a Reconstruction amendment, after all.

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Though that’s been the practice, not so sure that they do. Congress needs to write clarifying legislation.

More RAT-BS. Nobody’s forcing the children to stay here, they can go back to Mexico with their parents.

That’s just a scam to dilute the real US citizens’ birthright and give free stuff (that we have to pay for) to criminal invaders.
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My point exactly.

I don’t know why somebody here wanted to derail a Trump thread with this garbage of natural-born citizen, non-natural born citizen, naturalized citizen, bork bork bork citizen, or whatever. I suspect it was something to do with the autism spectrum.


28 posted on 11/25/2016 8:43:58 AM PST by angryoldfatman
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