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Historian finds German decree banishing Trump's grandfather
Guardian ^ | 11/21/16 | Kate Connolly in Berlin

Posted on 11/22/2016 5:40:36 PM PST by ifinnegan

A historian has discovered a royal decree issued to Donald Trump’s grandfather ordering him to leave Germany and never come back.

Friedrich Trump, a German, was issued with the document in February 1905, and ordered to leave the kingdom of Bavaria within eight weeks as punishment for having failed to do mandatory military service and failing to give authorities notice of his departure to the US when he first emigrated in 1885.

Kallstadt, Germany: on the trail of 'the Donald' in the Trump ancestral home Read more Roland Paul, a historian from Rhineland-Palatinate who found the document in local archives, told the tabloid Bild: “Friedrich Trump emigrated from Germany to the USA in 1885. However, he failed to de-register from his homeland and had not carried out his military service, which is why the authorities rejected his attempt at repatriation.”

The decree orders the “American citizen and pensioner Friedrich Trump” to leave the area “at the very latest on 1 May ... or else expect to be deported”. Bild called the archive find an “unspectacular piece of paper”, that had nevertheless “changed world history”.

Trump was born in Kallstadt, now in the state of Rhineland-Palatinate, in 1869. He emigrated to the US aged 16 initially to escape poverty, attracted by the gold rush.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: germany; trump; trumpen; trumpfamily; trumps; trumptransition
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To: Lisbon1940

Tell it to the funny, lo-info sign maker. ;)


121 posted on 11/22/2016 7:34:13 PM PST by Daffynition (*Donald Trump represents the WILL of the PEOPLE.*~ Don King 09.24.16)
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To: piasa

The Dakotas and most points west (except Utah + the left coast) were mostly settled 30-50 years later.


122 posted on 11/22/2016 7:36:05 PM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
PJ "Fredo" O'Rourke endorsed Hillary Clinton. The Godfather II Michael and Fredo photo:  Fredo.jpg
123 posted on 11/22/2016 7:38:52 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers, all armed conservatives)
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To: ifinnegan

Guardian is not trustworthy, and this article is slanted. From what I’ve read, Trump’s grandfather ran a hotel, not a brothel per se. Did bad things happen there—maybe, but I’m reluctant to take the word of this rag without more proof.


124 posted on 11/22/2016 7:46:56 PM PST by binreadin
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To: ifinnegan
Well, I gotta admit, it's pretty humiliating to have to go to Saxe-Coburg and Gotha to find a head of state. We couldn't do any better than that?

Oh, wait, that was somebody else...changed their family name to Windsor, IIRC...

125 posted on 11/22/2016 7:47:49 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: lopinslow

I never heard the name, but I did hear back in the 90s that it was some mob guy from Chicago who vacationed down there, and I also read the part about him taking care of little Billy.


126 posted on 11/22/2016 8:08:16 PM PST by Defiant (The media is the colostomy bag where truth goes after democrats digest it.)
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To: Genoa
You are probably right. Every other person born in 1869 is dead now.

When I was a kid I knew someone born in 1869--the mother of a friend of my grandmother. We were at their house the day she celebrated her 90th birthday, which was also my sister's second birthday (which is why I know her date of birth).

127 posted on 11/22/2016 8:24:10 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Genoa
You are probably right. Every other person born in 1869 is dead now.

When I was a kid I knew someone born in 1869--the mother of a friend of my grandmother. We were at their house the day she celebrated her 90th birthday, which was also my sister's second birthday (which is why I know her date of birth).

128 posted on 11/22/2016 8:24:11 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Defiant
Billy Blythe was killed in a car accident before William Jefferson Clinton was born.
129 posted on 11/22/2016 8:26:58 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Defiant

Supposedly there is a picture of him in a win picture with one of his horses in the racing office at Thistledown, the old timers say he looks just like Bill. Next time I’m there I will look for it and get a picture. There’s hundreds of win picture to look through but I will try.


130 posted on 11/22/2016 8:27:25 PM PST by lopinslow
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To: ifinnegan

I guess that disqualifies Trump from the presidency.


131 posted on 11/22/2016 8:58:18 PM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Potheads vote Dem.)
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To: ifinnegan

Libs like conscientious objectors.


132 posted on 11/22/2016 9:40:01 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

That’s not my understanding. My recollection is that Billy Blythe died a year or two after his return from WW2. He was a traveling salesman and was killed in a car wreck in Kansas or Oklahoma or someplace like that. Bill Jr. was just a baby. He had been born 6 months after Billy Sr. got back from the war. A little embarassing for old Virginia.


133 posted on 11/22/2016 11:30:05 PM PST by Defiant (The media is the colostomy bag where truth goes after democrats digest it.)
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To: ifinnegan

I’d guess, Trump has no intention of paying a visit to the land of Frau Merkel anytime soon anyways . . .


134 posted on 11/23/2016 3:17:02 AM PST by Mr Radical (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: Lisbon1940

These smart phones are not so smart yet probably smarter than most of us. ;)


135 posted on 11/23/2016 7:34:05 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: Lisbon1940

You can turn it off.


136 posted on 11/23/2016 7:35:18 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: kiltie65

The number of jobs created and a boost to the US economy? Billions of $? Heck yes!

Unfortunately liberals are too stupid to realize this and will destroy opportunities and kill jobs in an attempt to prove their point.


137 posted on 11/23/2016 7:38:47 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: dp0622
TRUMP’S GRANDFATHER IS A DRAFT DODGER..WAS A DRAFT DODGER IN 1905!!!!

If a Democrat: GRANDFATHER REFUSED TO SERVE IN THE ARMY OF UN-ELECTED TYRANT.

138 posted on 11/23/2016 7:44:10 AM PST by Stentor
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To: Defiant

That history regarding Billy’s father is probably why he felt no problem changing his name to his step-father’s.
A neighbor/friend of mine went to school with Billy. When asked what Clinton was like in school, his reply was, “can’t trust him now, couldn’t trust him then!” WJC was a born liar. My friend said that Billy was not raised in poverty as he wanted all to believe. His s/father had a car dealership and they lived on the “right side of the tracks.” Another note, my friend Bob was put ahead in school, Billy stayed with his class. Bob retired as a Colonel in the US Army. (Full Bird that is) Billy was a draft dodger who lied to his ROTC detachment commander to avoid service to his country.
The Clintons have always been about serving themselves and no one else.


139 posted on 11/23/2016 10:04:04 AM PST by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: Defiant
The Wikipedia article on William Jefferson Blythe, Jr., has his date of birth as Feb. 27, 1910, and his date of death as May 17, 1946. William Jefferson Clinton was born on August 19, 1946.

Blythe was married three times. The end of his second marriage was after the beginning of his marriage to Bill Clinton's mother.

140 posted on 11/23/2016 10:54:41 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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