Posted on 11/22/2016 1:48:33 AM PST by monkapotamus
The Master Persuader filter says Trump didn’t identify and match the preferences of the people so much as cause them to think the way they are thinking. My filter on the election says that Trump’s skill for persuasion could have given him the victory with DIFFERENT policies...
If Trump didn’t win because of his persuasion skills, which other Republican candidate can you imagine beating Clinton?...
I also have a hard time imagining any other candidate going after Bill Clinton so hard that it took him out of the game. Was Jeb going to do that?...
If you believe Trump’s skill for persuasion wasn’t the key variable in his win, you have to imagine some other candidate beating Clinton with the same set of policies as Trump... I can’t imagine it.
If you think Trump is the next Hitler, or a clown who got lucky with his populist message, you have to ask yourself why the stock market and the dollar are both up following the election. The smartest money-managers in the world have already abandoned their old movies and jumped over to movies they see as more useful for making money, apparently.
If you think Trump is the next Hitler, you have to ask yourself why every major world power has already said they think they can work with him, no problem.
If you think Trump is a lucky incompetent who inherited money from his father, you have to explain why he has succeeded in real estate, reality TV, and now politics. Can incompetent people win that bigly in three different arenas while everyone is watching?
If you think Trump has anti-semite advisors, you have to wonder why his son-in-law Jared Kushner hasn’t noticed any of that and is working hard for Trump...
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Hillary Clinton put on a different persona for every event and special interest group/message she held. She was a hawk when needed, a bleeding heart when required. Certainly bellicose, she attacked and attacked and attacked all the while trying to keep up the impression that she had any real ideals at all.
Donald Trump just spoke the truth and what was on his mind - multiple times a day before tens of thousands of Americans who are tired of politician BS.
Millions Gaffer, Millions who are tired of their BS.
A hundred million ... or more ... and growing ...
I do agree and would like to add my two cents.
First being that I view being labeled a ‘politician’ as similar to being informed one has an incurable STD.
Second I believe that Mr. Trump is an able individual, however I think serendipity had lot to do with his winning.
It appears the least informed were those in DC who thought they were the most informed, but alas they obviously were badly out of touch.
America was founded in part on a aversion to elitism and aristocracies, something those who desirable ‘power’ gravitate to.
Power must be exercised otherwise no one knows who has it; however historically whenever an individual with power exercises that power, others generally suffer.
A pet peeve here is the recent touting of American foreign policy. Peh-lease give me a break, most,if not all, American foreign policy has been a farce since the Wilson days. You can blow smoke up the world’s ass for only so long, and it was not us as Americans or a Country. It was individuals using our Country’s good name to do bad things.
The one thing he misses is the rise of middle/working class populism, that is the Tea Party movement, prior to Trump taking the stage.
Trump was smart enough to recognize a ready made movement and to jump in front of it, throwing red meat to a group told they had to live on porridge.
Like many true believers, in this case "The Persuader", Adams can sound like a one-note Johnny, fortunately it was a note in the correct key.
That is the mark of a leader.
Crafting a message that resonates the best with focus groups is not leading. Hillary did this, and that was the way Bill behaved throughout his presidency. Pandering is no way to run a country. Of course Bill got away with that, since he had the collusion of a fawning press. But looking back--did Bill Clinton ever have a message that resonated with people? Was there ever any great achievement during his administration? Nope, he is remembered for debasing the White House with his sexual escapades. His most memorable achievements--selling missile technology to China and giving nuclear technology to North Korea--are known only to political junkies and can hardly be considered great. For that matter, what will Obama be remembered for? Did he achieve anything positive in between golf vacations? Ineffective presidents without real accomplishment is what happens when they govern by focus groups.
I would disagree that Trump influenced people to think a certain way. He tapped into the thoughts and feelings of many people--the people who supported Newt and his Contract for America, the Tea Partiers, the people who have been crying out for real leadership. He saw that, and stepped up to the plate. He is not pandering through focus groups. He is saying that he understands the issues and problems, and leads by saying he has a plan to fix them. And he is bringing us, the American people, with him to help solve the problems.
It's actually more complex than a "one-note" analysis.
It has to do with our perceptions of reality. Metaphysics, in other words.
But, the idea that Trump could have won using Sander's policy positions simply on the strength of his persuasion acumen is crazy.
I would disagree that Trump influenced people to think a certain way. He tapped into the thoughts and feelings of many people—the people who supported Newt and his Contract for America, the Tea Partiers, the people who have been crying out for real leadership. He saw that, and stepped up to the plate. He is not pandering through focus groups. He is saying that he understands the issues and problems, and leads by saying he has a plan to fix them. AGREED. Also he will not move to the middle, he will try to work with people but will stand by his convictions.
Misleading article title. There are multiple paths to a recount, and this article, which is old news, is only about her missing the deadline for the “voter initiated recount” pathway.
Sorry! Posted to the wrong thread!
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