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To: BlackElk
I don't see any "phobias" here about possible military action.

We're just tired of these stupid, expensive, destructive and pointless military campaigns that have now lasted longer than the U.S. involvement in both World Wars, the Korean War, and the Civil War -- COMBINED.

John Bolton wouldn't want to send an Ohio Class submarine anywhere as part of a military campaign. You rain death on a massive scale when you're trying to defeat an enemy, not build an empire.

64 posted on 11/19/2016 1:52:33 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: Alberta's Child
I have no interest in an empire. I never knew John Bolton to have such an interest either. I DO have an interest in bringing these bastards to heel or killing them. It is up to them.

Since the end of World War II, our wars have been rendered pointless by gutless, spineless politicians who REFUSE to allow our military to WIN.

Truman fired MacArthur.

Eisenhower "brought the boys home" (now Kim Jong Porkfat has nukes as a result).

LBJ wanted to be a war POTUS without actually, well, winning. Comrade McGovern and the newly communist Demonrat Party dug in against Tricky Dick (and his "secret plan" to end the Vietnam War) until Gerald Ford could have the opportunity to surrender outright to the heirs of Ho Chi Minh,

Bush the Elder used a magnificent General Stormin' Norman Schwartzkopf to win half a war with very few American casualties to free Kuwait but leave So Damn Insane in power (necessitating a second Gulf War and a LOT more American casualties).

Bush the Younger was clearly in over his head and those of his thoroughly Establishmentarian administraitors and totally screwed up Gulf War II. Building schools is not waging war. Building temporary "democracy" is notwaging war. Exposing American military personnel on the ground to IUDs and truck bombs by unnecessarily occupying the land is not waging war. Bush the Younger seemed so willing to sacrifice the lives of American military personnel in order to spread the standards of LBJ's Great Society to the Middle East. Shock and Awe was short-lived. The misery of political incompetents visited upon our military? Not so much.

Barack Insane Obozo having dutifully undermined Gulf War II as a treasonweasel senator, continued that war and the one in Afghanistan under the usual senseless surrender monkey "rules of engagement" guaranteeing maximum American casualties lest we harm his ideological soulmates in Islamolunaticland while depleting our military resources to a dangerous level, replacing military patriot leaders with pantywaists and greenlighting Iran getting nukes. He compounded these crimes by welcoming every wannabe suicide bomber and Islamofascist with open arms and welfare benefits to bring the war here to our own country.

The troops would win every time but they were restrained and betrayed by the political whores. And YOU have nothing more serious to worry about than the possibility that we might have a man's man as Secretary of State?????

77 posted on 11/19/2016 2:55:10 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Rack 'em, Danno!)
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