Posted on 11/17/2016 3:37:51 AM PST by grayboots
<< “Reality is better represented by a continuum running from Satan on the left to God on the right. This allows us to see two things:
1. The left calls anything unpleasant “right wing,” without regard for the truth; and
2. It is not humanly possible to get far enough to the right. The further one goes to the right, the fewer nuts one finds.” >>
1. How far on your Reality Continuum does one have to travel to be considered in NutWing-free territory? Or rather, to be in “Godly” territory? Just a little? A lot? And how do we measure this? It’s not like GPS coordinates will help.
2. If the right is Godliness, who gets to decide how far a person must go right on the Reality Continuum before being considered Godly? Is that something I get to decide? My neighbors? My fellow right-wingers? God Himself? I don’t want to be a Nutter, so maybe I need to reconsider my current spot on the continuum. With whom should I speak to determine my current position?
3. When does a person begin traveling on this Satan vs. God Reality Continuum? At birth? When he develops a conscience and the awareness of moral equivalence? The day after his 18th birthday?
4. Where is the starting point on this Reality Continuum? If it’s a continuum, there must be a starting point at which each person begins his life journey. Is your starting point the same as mine? You know.. in the beginning, whenever that is.
5. And how far to the left can a person travel before reaching the level of Satan? Does Satan camp out on this continuum, waiting to lure people into his snare of Dumbass-Moderates-Who-Took-A-Wrong-Turn-Somewhere-So-Now-They’re-Gonna-Fry-In-Hell?
6. Does this mean we should be telling our liberal relatives they need to do a complete 180 degree turn, because if they don’t, they’ll never see the Land of Milk and Honey?
More likely, I think, someone from the shadows would "reach out and touch someone."
“Snipers wanted.”
I haven't watched CNN, ABC, CBS, or NBC for years now and stopped watching FOX altogether in August of 2015 after that first debate.
Without VIEWERS they have NO REVENUE source.
They don't need revenue from ads based on viewership. Instead, they are supported by dirty soros/saudi money.
CNN is owned by Time Warner NOT Soros.
Even IF Soros was putting money into CNN.. WHY would Soros continue to want to put money into CNN if there were little or NO viewers?
What would he be accomplishing without viewers to attempt to influence?
Do you know Iraq and Sadam paid CNN for favorable coverage?
Is it possible that CNN, its producers and reporters are being paid by non-advertisers such as the uber-rich globalist cabal to promote an agenda?
I doubt it as a whole.
The outcome of the election and what has happened to Hillary Clinton alone would be proof enough to any colluders that it wasn't getting the job done very well in the propaganda dept.
The right type of propaganda vehicles on the Internet can reach more people globally in a month than CNN can reach in an entire year through their cable operation and their Internet connectivity.
You’re assuming the globalist cabal always wins and always gets their way, even in propaganda expenditures, which definitely occur, but don’t always achieve their intended result.
“Interesting. I’m confused, though.”
Oh, yes, I can see that.
“1. How far on your Reality Continuum does one have to travel to be considered in NutWing-free territory?”
Are you really confused enough to apply the concept of distance to a spiritual continuum? This is a conceptual model, not a map of an interstate.
“Or rather, to be in “Godly” territory? Just a little? A lot? And how do we measure this? It’s not like GPS coordinates will help.”
As Charles Caleb Colon wrote, “He that is good, will infallibly become better, and he that is bad, will as certainly become worse; for vice, virtue and time are three things that never stand still.” Just concentrate on becoming better, and let God take care of the silly questions.
“2. If the right is Godliness, who gets to decide how far a person must go right on the Reality Continuum before being considered Godly”
A Godly person is not concerned with being “considered Godly.” We all have further to go, no matter our current state. As I wrote, it is not possible to get far enough to the right.
“Is that something I get to decide? My neighbors? My fellow right-wingers?”
Things like this are not “decided,” and you don’t strive to please God out of concern for the opinions of your fellow men. God sees. That is enough.
“I don’t want to be a Nutter, so maybe I need to reconsider my current spot on the continuum.”
We all need to think about our current state, all the time. That said, speaking of a “spot on the continuum” may have value to mockers, but it is ridiculous to the sincere.
“With whom should I speak to determine my current position?”
Find a good priest. Or, if you are able, study the matter in depth on your own. Read the Bible, and then commentaries by smarter, wiser, holier men to correct your inevitable errors. Start by starting.
“3. When does a person begin traveling on this Satan vs. God Reality Continuum? At birth? When he develops a conscience and the awareness of moral equivalence? The day after his 18th birthday?”
Life begins at conception. As a “right winger,” you should understand that. Of course, the pre-born don’t make many moral choices, that we know of.
“4. Where is the starting point on this Reality Continuum? If it’s a continuum, there must be a starting point at which each person begins his life journey.”
It is not necessary that we should know where we started, nor would there seem to be any way to know. It would seem logical to suppose that we are all innocent at conception.
“Is your starting point the same as mine? You know.. in the beginning, whenever that is.”
Who cares? What, are you going to sue God if you started further to the left than someone else? Are you going to curse God and die if it’s harder for you to resist temptation than for other people? And how would you determine that, anyway?
William L. Brown wrote, “The attempt to make God just in the eyes of sinful men will always lead to error.” I have no idea if things are “fair.” It would seem that some people have harder lives than others. Is that “unfair?” One thing I will guarantee you: if there seems to be a problem with God, it’s on your end. Or mine.
“5. And how far to the left can a person travel before reaching the level of Satan?”
Again, who cares? That’s not a line one flirts with. You lift your eyes to God and do the best you can. When you fall, you ask forgiveness, take lessons learned on board, and set out again.
“Does Satan camp out on this continuum, waiting to lure people into his snare of Dumbass-Moderates-Who-Took-A-Wrong-Turn-Somewhere-So-Now-They’re-Gonna-Fry-In-Hell?”
Thank you for the opportunity to practice patience. I wish, though, that you could at least mock what is here, rather than weaving your own straw men to attack.
Satan roams the world like a ravening lion, seeking whom he may devour. So yes, he is always trying to lure people into his snares. Your implication, though, is that God sends people to Hell unjustly, or for trivial reasons.
That’s just puerile. The only people who believe that…no, let me rephrase: The only people who believe that Christians believe that are the God-haters, the mockers. That notion is no part of Christianity.
“6. Does this mean we should be telling our liberal relatives they need to do a complete 180 degree turn, because if they don’t, they’ll never see the Land of Milk and Honey?”
The land of milk and honey was the promised land of the Jews, not Heaven.
Correcting for that, yes, you certainly should be telling your liberal relatives they need to do a complete 180 degree turn, because if they don’t, they’ll spend eternity cut off from God.
All leftist thought, from the limousine liberalism of a George Clooney to the murderous horrors of Mao, Stalin, and Pol Pot, is of and from Satan. Leftism is a contaminant in the human cognosphere, not a natural component of it.
Satan is smarter than we are, and he never sleeps. Those over whom he has the most influence are like maniacally evil energizer demons.
Every once in a while one of them escapes, as David Horowitz did, but who knows how or why?
Anyway, Satan knows that leftism is bad for humanity. That’s why he invented it, and that’s why he flim-flams those he can into trying to force it on us all.
Yes the mistake is to try to take out the leaders...you take out the enabling leftenants and as they panic and withdraw, the leaders are left isolated!
It sucks to be “middle management”.
First to go in re-orgs.
Ok, I appreciate your sincere effort, I really do. But nowhere in the Bible does it say that we are on solid Scriptural ground by judging the political leanings of our fellow man. You can do that all you want and label it whatever you want, but you may as well be putting yourself up on a pedestal while you’re at it.
It’s not our right to judge another person’s salvation by looking at their political leanings. Do so at your own peril, but sin is sin. Judging your fellow man is just as sinful as any sin you may be thinking that a Democrat-leaning person is committing.
Pardon my bluntness. I’ve just never met anyone who claimed that a person’s salvation is dependent on his political viewpoints. Just wow.
Have a great weekend. I really don’t have anything else to say about this.
“Ok, I appreciate your sincere effort, I really do. But nowhere in the Bible does it say that we are on solid Scriptural ground by judging the political leanings of our fellow man. You can do that all you want and label it whatever you want, but you may as well be putting yourself up on a pedestal while you’re at it.”
I really, really hate it when people pull that bogus crap. We are all required to make moral judgments. It’s not optional. And yet some people try to put those who oppose their beliefs in the wrong with this “putting yourself on a pedestal” nonsense.
Perhaps you are incapable of making a moral judgment based on the Bible and the collected wisdom of 2000 years of Christian thought without putting yourself on a pedestal. I don’t know. But most people are capable of doing it with at least a modicum of humility.
“It’s not our right to judge another person’s salvation by looking at their political leanings.”
Of course no one knows the state of another man’s soul. That’s basic.
We have, though, received some principles from God. “Don’t murder people,” for instance. You don’t have to be Thomas Aquinas to figure out that voting for politicians who support abortion is offensive to God. You don’t have to be Saint Pius X to realize that voting for politicians who support sodomite play-pretend marriage is offensive to God. You don’t have to be very bright at all to realize that virtually the entire demonrat platform is offensive to God.
You certainly don’t have to be on any kind of a pedestal to understand that people who support and promote killing babies, the abomination of homosexuality, fornication, adultery, divorce, and the welfare state are playing fast and loose with their souls.
“Do so at your own peril, but sin is sin. Judging your fellow man is just as sinful as any sin you may be thinking that a Democrat-leaning person is committing.”
So, you really believe that, to God, jaywalking is as bad as anally raping a child? That’s some weird God you believe in.
As Wolfgang Pauli said, “Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch.” (That is not only not right, it is not even wrong.) You asked me before where you should start. At this point I would recommend a course with the words “remedial theology” in the name.
“Pardon my bluntness. I’ve just never met anyone who claimed that a person’s salvation is dependent on his political viewpoints. Just wow.”
You act as though leftist “viewpoints” are a legitimate competing ideology that a decent person can embrace and remain a decent person. That is not the case. Leftism is evil, and evil in any of its manifestations should never be allowed to masquerade as a “responsible opposing viewpoint” to good.
If you support abortion, you are not a decent person and your prospects for reaching Heaven are not looking good. Ditto any of the sodomite abominations, and even the welfare state.
In the eternal battle between Good and Evil, leftards are fighting on the side of evil, and if you don’t understand that their opposition to God’s laws affects their salvation, well, just wow.
“I really don’t have anything else to say about this.”
That is a blessing, but you certainly do have a lot to figure out about this.
“That is a blessing, but you certainly do have a lot to figure out about this.”
You left out the sanctimonious, judgmental name-calling, or did I miss it? You’re familiar with the pedastal metaphor. Gee, I wonder why? Lol!
“You left out the sanctimonious, judgmental name-calling, or did I miss it? You’re familiar with the pedastal metaphor. Gee, I wonder why? Lol!”
That laugh is awfully hollow.
I haven’t engaged in name-calling. The closest thing we’ve seen here is your implication that I am sanctimonious and judgmmental.
“Sanctimonious” is, more often than not, just a slur people whip out when they want a pass on mortal sin. “Judgmental” is just something that people who do not want to follow God call people who would like to try.
Any educated man of my generation is familiar with “the pedastal (sic) metaphor,” so that in no way justifies your rage at someone who merely repeated some things that every Christian knows.
If you think people can vote for abortion and the current sodomite rampage without putting their souls at risk, well, let’s pray that God has mercy and gives you a DiNozzo.
Incitement.
No rage. Just bewilderment at a person who prides in calling himself a Christian yet is okay with climbing up onto a pedestal (thank you for the correction) to judge every soul on earth and put those souls into his own "Going-to-Heaven-with-Me" and "You're-Going-to-Hell" categories. That's some dangerous ground you're walking on. Pride is sin. Never forget.
I haven’t engaged in name-calling. The closest thing we’ve seen here is your implication that I am sanctimonious and judgmmental [sic].
I don't really have anything else that needs to be said, other than it's pretty symbolic of exactly what I've been talking about. Sawdust. Plank. Eye.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Get rid of your cable or Dish/DirecTV and stream.
You're still supporting CNN even if you don't watch them.
I have zero cable, not even local TV. I stream and if I want the news I go straight to the Internet.
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