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The Possibility of Closing Combat Roles for Women in the Military
NBC San Diego ^ | 11/15 | Bridget Naso

Posted on 11/16/2016 11:26:27 AM PST by nickcarraway

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To: tomkat

‘RAH.


41 posted on 11/16/2016 5:32:57 PM PST by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy saints surrounded.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

300,000? It’s not even that high...


42 posted on 11/16/2016 5:47:48 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: Chainmail

Having to sift through a significant pool of female applicants to find the 1/2 of 1 percent who could meet combat standards will cost what? And how many male applicants who would pass in far higher percentages will have their career side-tracked?


43 posted on 11/16/2016 5:51:15 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: nickcarraway; markomalley; DYngbld; TADSLOS; xsrdx; big'ol_freeper; Mark17; mikefive; JDoutrider; ..

Active Duty ping.


44 posted on 11/16/2016 5:51:19 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Tallguy

I doubt 300,000 positions as well, but it could be near there. That number would include Navy, Marines and and Air Force.


45 posted on 11/16/2016 5:51:26 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Tallguy
And how many male applicants who would pass in far higher percentages will have their career side-tracked?

You know the response to that:

"You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs!"

46 posted on 11/16/2016 5:53:20 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Last Dakotan

I dont disagree with your point, but keep in mind: The thing that pulled the US out of the Great Depression was the reinstatement of the draft. At the time it pulled a million men off the streets and into the army. This was before Dec 1941.

So, if you all of a sudden lose 300,000 spots in the military—where are those people going to go? Are they to join the 96 million sitting on the sidelines?

The last thing this country needs is more 25 year-old depressed people...who have been trained how to fire a weapon.

I don’t want them in combat. But I am not so sure I want them all on the street either.


47 posted on 11/16/2016 5:55:39 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Brace. Brace. Brace. Heads down. Do not look up.)
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To: Vermont Lt

“The last thing this country needs is more 25 year-old depressed people...who have been trained how to fire a weapon.”

A little off-topic, but this is why the Obama-Clinton-Kerry foreign policy is such a kludge. Their foreign policy demands the use of indigenous infantry forces — ie. the so-called moderates in Syria. The same guys who deposed Ghadafi in Libya, and fought in militias in Iraq. The point is that you train an Army and it just doesn’t ‘go away’ when you have no further use for it. They used to call them mercenaries.


48 posted on 11/16/2016 6:05:48 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: Jet Jaguar
what a concept
49 posted on 11/16/2016 6:30:17 PM PST by Chode (You Owe Them Nothing - Not Respect, Not Loyalty, Not Obedience, NOTHING! ich bin ein Deplorable...)
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To: Vermont Lt
So, if you all of a sudden lose 300,000 spots in the military—where are those people going to go?

I dunno, maybe make armaments for the 300,000 men that just got jobs. Never been done before?


50 posted on 11/16/2016 8:13:04 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Last Dakotan

Oh, so picking another war sounds like a good idea? Haven’t we done that enough in the past 15 years or so?


51 posted on 11/16/2016 8:33:16 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Brace. Brace. Brace. Heads down. Do not look up.)
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To: Tallguy
You are correct: the average female recruit we got was a short, plump little thing who couldn't keep up in the runs. The thin, tall, wiry image of the female warrior put out by Hollywood is just a fantasy.

Having "careers sidetracked" isn't the point: it's winning and surviving combat. It's like that Korean War combatant's answer when the reporter asked him what he wanted the most. He just wanted to know that he would live until the next day.

The combination of movie fantasy and liberal wishful thinking has scrubbed the image of war far from reality. We don't bother teaching anyone about Normandy or Tarawa, Iwo or The Sugarloaf, Chosin or Hue City. It's not about "jobs" or "careers". It's about killing the enemy and getting our guys to live to the next day.

52 posted on 11/17/2016 2:58:10 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

Of course you are right on the career point. I come at it from the perspective of a non-graduate of the USNA. My class was only the 2nd to have females. I believe I saw ONE female midshipmen who was a cross-country athlete in HS. The rest were the short-plump variety. All were on crutches for blisters & shin splints after the 1st week — and that continued off & on for most of Plebe Summer. So while you make the better point about survival, I saw females holding down slots as officer candidates.


53 posted on 11/17/2016 4:05:37 AM PST by Tallguy
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I am sure that you are right - there are some excellent women officers out there but somehow our idiot leaders conflate that to mean that women in general are completely interchangeable with males.

Um, no. I spent my early 20s as a Marine fighting in the vicinity of Hill 55 and we had enough problems without the nonsense of mixing inadequate team members/sexual connections. Combat is about death, not jobs. Where we were, small slipups meant body bags or permanently ruined bodies, day after day.

They can mess with all sorts of career fields by mixing in women and gays but the life or death world of direct combat is not one of them.

54 posted on 11/17/2016 4:25:55 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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