Posted on 11/01/2016 2:18:23 AM PDT by Libloather
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How much can I expect to pay in premiums?
Last year, the average monthly premium was $364, according to the Department of Health and Human Services. That sounds like a lot, but 87% of Americans qualified for a subsidy to help them pay the premiums. After the subsidy, the average monthly cost was only $101.
For 2016, premiums appear to be increasing. The government just reported that the cost of the most popular marketplace plan will rise by an average of 7.5% next year, though depending on where you live you could see big hikes or even small declines..
(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...
Another article written by the propagandists. It’s as if the subsidy is magic. I, for one, am sick to death of having the government confiscate my wealth and giving it to some freeloader.
And stay healthy. Don’t forget the stay healthy part.
$101 my ass
Those seemingly low monthly premiums are only meaningful once you figure in the out-of-pocket costs of meeting the deductibles.
I am not doing anything until after the election
It's amazing...for 87% of Americans (let that number sink in for a moment) $264/month miraculously appears out of nowhere!
Apparatchik media graduates of the Goebbels School of Journalism.
People with subsidized plans still end up with health INSURANCE, not health care. They still can’t afford the copayments or prescriptions.
You only have to pay $8000 deductible before you can actually use it.
That sounds to me like the remaining 13% were "targeted" with punitive costs. Either its a self-sustaining program, or a government funded program, or it's taxpayer (not-taker) selective punishment. Seems to be the latter.
I think we need to be very careful about going after Obamacare.
Sure it needs to be replaced. But REPLACED. It does not need to be just ended.
What we had before was an extremely expensive mess, which dropped people from coverage if they got sick.
No we need to replace it with real coverage, for everyone. Everyone.
I do not see Americans talking about that. I see a bunch of us just expressing anger at Obamacare (mostly because it starts with the word Obama), and a bunch more people defending it.
We want to appeal to those people. There are quite a lot of them.
We need to fix American healthcare.
Not go back to the mess we had before.
Alternatives to Obamacare
http://hubpages.com/health/Alternatives-to-Obamacare
Replaced with what?
No we need to replace it with real coverage, for everyone. Everyone.
How?
I’m leaving that bit of brilliance up to Donald Trump.
I don’t know if he’s up to it. It is the single one topic I am not sure whether he is up to.
But he seems to (maybe) have the right idea. He is right on everything else. 100%. So I will wait and see whether he also gets this. He seems to. Maybe.
No this is every thing you should know: Trump VS Hillary health care plans
I’m tired of both, them usurping my money and my health care restricting it to the point IT is nearly not healthcare but a death sentence, with out the benefit of a trial and 20 yrs of appeals. Now Grannie can’t even get a stinking Pain pill without peeing in a bottle every month. DEA shortage of pain meds
http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/4/13166594/dea-opioid-epidemic-manufacturer-2017-substance-
Why replace it with anything? Why not accept that there are some things government cannot provide a solution for and leave it at that? There are some things that the government can't fix; it can only make it worse. It's time to deal with that.
I dont know if hes up to it. It is the single one topic I am not sure whether he is up to.
What candidate is up to it?
But he seems to (maybe) have the right idea.
His plans as he has laid them out will not help lower income people afford health care insurance, they won't make it cheaper, they won't make it better. Repeal Obamacare and be done with it.
Well I disagree.
We have a very restrictive healthcare system, which is extremely expensive.
Very restrictive. Very expensive. It is both of those, because it is HUGELY regulated by the government.
If you want to get government out of healthcare, then get them (completely) out of healthcare. Completely.
They are in healthcare up to their eyeballs now though.
Americans need an inexpensive alternate. Healthcare is too important to keep the fouled up system we have now.
Get the government (completely) out of it. Or fix it.
One or the other.
Keeping what we have is way, way too expensive, and leaves (far) too many people without coverage.
America is a very good country. Best in the world,
But our healthcare system sucks.
Really? So what regulations would you take away?
Get the government (completely) out of it. Or fix it.
Which brings me back to my original question; fix it how?
We have had a war on poverty. We have had a war on drugs. Both have been dismal failures and it cannot be argued that the government intervention did, in many ways, make it worse. Why should be believe that a government war on healthcare is going to wind up any better?
It is a real puff piece. Sounds like HHS wrote it. I think the 87% refers to people that get their insurance through exchanges. The only reason to use an exchange is if you are eligible for a subsidy or not quite sure because of fluctuating income. KFF says 60% of Americans have income below the 400% poverty level. Couldn't find percentages for actual working Americans.
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